Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys)

SmootSmack · 12-28-2009, 07:36 AM

This team just isn't the same without Devin Thomas...

Let's get right to it

Bye Weeks If not for a bye week, this miserable season would have ended yesterday

Offensive Line In all honesty, I really don't know how much I can blame guys like Will Montgomery and Will Robinson. I mean these guys are backups to the backups to the backups. I hate to give them the smackdown because they're probably playing beyond their abilities, which unfortunately just aren't that good. But Levi Jones and Derrick Dockery were especially disappointing. I still can't figure out if Jones has just hit a wall and needs a whole offseason and will bounce back just fine in 2010. Or if he just isn't the answer at all for us.

Jason Campbell The one play that continues to stand out in my mind yesterday was when Campbell looked left before the snap, saw Sensabaugh creeping up, snapped the ball, looked left, saw Scandrick coming toward him (at least I thought he did, he was looking in his direction at least), turned to look the other way and got drilled. That complete lack of presence, in my opinion, was very disconcerting. (The other play was the throw to Davis that got intercepted (it looked very forced).)

DBUCHANON101 · 12-28-2009, 07:42 AM

At the beginning of the season and things were going bad i honestly thought they were a few guys and maybe a new HC away from making some noise. I WAS WRONG, they need to scrap this sh and just start over. We had a poll a few weeks ago about the first 10 players they should cut, hell i'd say who are the 10 you want to keep. I cant name 10 at this time.

MTK · 12-28-2009, 07:52 AM

Is the season over yet?

Chief X_Phackter · 12-28-2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Is the season over yet?

Yes, the season has been over for some time now.

Longtimefan · 12-28-2009, 08:26 AM

Expectations of a successful season have lost their luster weeks ago. With so many of our front line players out of action for extended periods, middle of the season changes and distractions, the end result is only what one of clear conscience could expect.

I guess most of us are just glad there's only one game left and that's on the road. We're left now to watch and wait in anxious anticipation for what the offseason is going to bring.

CRedskinsRule · 12-28-2009, 08:44 AM

Division Play We went 0-6 in the division for the first time since 94. Zorn should be canned this morning, preferably right after his press conference (but that is probably just the disgust guiding me). I whole heartedly believed that two solid wins against the NYG and cowpukes would have given Zorn credibility, instead he got nothing from the team, and just added fuel to the laughing stock that the Skins have become in the media. 0-6, unbelievable!

mlmdub130 · 12-28-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Division Play We went 0-6 in the division for the first time since 94. Zorn should be canned this morning, preferably right after his press conference (but that is probably just the disgust guiding me). I whole heartedly believed that two solid wins against the NYG and cowpukes would have given Zorn credibility, instead he got nothing from the team, and just added fuel to the laughing stock that the Skins have become in the media. 0-6, unbelievable!

have we ever finished 0-6 in the division before?? i know that this was the first time ever we have been shut out by dallas

warpaint · 12-28-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmdub130

have we ever finished 0-6 in the division before?? i know that this was the first time ever we have been shut out by dallas

We went 0-6 in 1994

Dallas shut us out in 2003, 27-0 at Fed-ex Field

firstdown · 12-28-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmdub130

have we ever finished 0-6 in the division before?? i know that this was the first time ever we have been shut out by dallas

1994 we did not win a divisional game.

I think we need to bring an end to this ganthers experiment.

SBXVII · 12-28-2009, 08:12 PM

[quote=firstdown;647100]1994 we did not win a divisional game.

I think we need to bring an end to this ganthers experiment.[/quote]

What would you have us do? We still have 1 game left. Honestly he's running better then Rock Cartwright. Mason....I might agree with you on. He's had his chance. I gave him more time then most on this site.

If he can get his blocking down he might turn out to be a great runner. Wait....I think I said that about Mason also. LOL. Maybe Shanahan with his infinite wisdom and newer updated blocking scheme will get more out of both of them. Plus Alridge.

Paintrain · 12-28-2009, 08:47 AM

That was the manifestation of a series of events that lead to an eventual collapse. I started to yell at the TV at one point last night but then realized we were playing 3 OL who probably had no business out there, our 4th RB, our backup TE, our backup WR with a lame duck coach (who I am pretty sure was calling plays all night last night) and shrugged my shoulders like 'What did I expect to happen?'

Campbell looked like pre-Lewis Campbell. Indecisive, tentative, scared of the rush. Reminded me of the KC game. His comments afterwards on Comcast were very telling, saying the situation was unfair and that he was very frustrated with not being given the opportunity to be successful by the lack of depth in some positions. You can also tell how frustrated he seemed to be with Zorn IMO at the 5 minute mark when Zorn punted down 17 points. I think he will embrace a new regime, if he's back.

As much as I don't think turning over 4-5 starting OL in an offseason is ever a wise move, those clowns are awful. We've talked ad nauseam about Heyer and the RG rotation but Levi Jones has played pretty poorly for about 3 straight weeks now. Maybe he can be a RT but he's no longer a starting LT. Rabach is below average and Dockery hasn't shown to be more than just a guy. Obviously this will be job 1 for Shanahallen.

I hope Landry enrolls in some geometry classes because he needs serious work on his angles.

CRedskinsRule · 12-28-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

That was the manifestation of a series of events that lead to an eventual collapse. I started to yell at the TV at one point last night but then realized we were playing 3 OL who probably had no business out there, our 4th RB, our backup TE, our backup WR with a lame duck coach (who I am pretty sure was calling plays all night last night) and shrugged my shoulders like 'What did I expect to happen?'

Campbell looked like pre-Lewis Campbell. Indecisive, tentative, scared of the rush. Reminded me of the KC game. His comments afterwards on Comcast were very telling, saying the situation was unfair and that he was very frustrated with not being given the opportunity to be successful by the lack of depth in some positions. You can also tell how frustrated he seemed to be with Zorn IMO at the 5 minute mark when Zorn punted down 17 points. I think he will embrace a new regime, if he's back.

As much as I don't think turning over 4-5 starting OL in an offseason is ever a wise move, those clowns are awful. We've talked ad nauseam about Heyer and the RG rotation but Levi Jones has played pretty poorly for about 3 straight weeks now. Maybe he can be a RT but he's no longer a starting LT. Rabach is below average and Dockery hasn't shown to be more than just a guy. Obviously this will be job 1 for Shanahallen.

I hope Landry enrolls in some geometry classes because he needs serious work on his angles.

These last two games looked more like the Pre-Lewis Skins, and Smoot had made the comment that Allen may have let Zorn call all the shots for the Giants game. Can anyone confirm that. Really I am just curious about if Lewis was involved in these two losses, or if his role had been curtailed.

SmootSmack · 12-28-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

These last two games looked more like the Pre-Lewis Skins, and Smoot had made the comment that Allen may have let Zorn call all the shots for the Giants game. Can anyone confirm that. Really I am just curious about if Lewis was involved in these two losses, or if his role had been curtailed.

Are you talking about me, or actually Fred Smoot? Because I don't recall ever saying that

CRedskinsRule · 12-28-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Are you talking about me, or actually Fred Smoot? Because I don't recall ever saying that

I meant you, I thought I saw that you posted something along those lines, sorry.

GusFrerotte · 12-28-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

These last two games looked more like the Pre-Lewis Skins, and Smoot had made the comment that Allen may have let Zorn call all the shots for the Giants game. Can anyone confirm that. Really I am just curious about if Lewis was involved in these two losses, or if his role had been curtailed.

The team sucks period. You act like Sherm Lewis could turn things around for the long haul. You could have brought VInce Lombardi back via time machine and these bums would still suck. WE have very few bona fide stars on our team with Cooley hurt and Portis probably looking at possible early retirement. On top of that we have absolutely no depth at the skilled positions. Mr. Allen is going to blow this franchise up and start anew I think.

12-28-2009, 07:36 AM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys) This team just isn't the same without Devin Thomas... Let's get right to it Bye Weeks If not for a bye week, this miserable season would have ended yesterday Offensive Line In all honesty, I really don't know how much I can blame guys like Will Montgomery and Will Robinson. I mean these guys are backups to the backups to the backups. I hate to give them the smackdown because they're probably playing beyond their abilities, which unfortunately just aren't that good. But Levi Jones and Derrick Dockery were especially disappointing. I still can't figure out if Jones has just hit a wall and needs a whole offseason and will bounce back just fine in 2010. Or if he just isn't the answer at all for us. Jason Campbell The one play that continues to stand out in my mind yesterday was when Campbell looked left before the snap, saw Sensabaugh creeping up, snapped the ball, looked left, saw Scandrick coming toward him (at least I thought he did, he was looking in his direction at least), turned to look the other way and got drilled. That complete lack of presence, in my opinion, was very disconcerting. (The other play was the throw to Davis that got intercepted (it looked very forced).) __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

12-28-2009, 07:42 AM	#2
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys) At the beginning of the season and things were going bad i honestly thought they were a few guys and maybe a new HC away from making some noise. I WAS WRONG, they need to scrap this sh and just start over. We had a poll a few weeks ago about the first 10 players they should cut, hell i'd say who are the 10 you want to keep. I cant name 10 at this time. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

12-28-2009, 07:52 AM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,427	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys) Is the season over yet? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-28-2009, 08:26 AM	#5
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys) Expectations of a successful season have lost their luster weeks ago. With so many of our front line players out of action for extended periods, middle of the season changes and distractions, the end result is only what one of clear conscience could expect. I guess most of us are just glad there's only one game left and that's on the road. We're left now to watch and wait in anxious anticipation for what the offseason is going to bring.

12-28-2009, 08:44 AM	#6
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,202	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys) Division Play We went 0-6 in the division for the first time since 94. Zorn should be canned this morning, preferably right after his press conference (but that is probably just the disgust guiding me). I whole heartedly believed that two solid wins against the NYG and cowpukes would have given Zorn credibility, instead he got nothing from the team, and just added fuel to the laughing stock that the Skins have become in the media. 0-6, unbelievable!

12-28-2009, 08:12 PM	#10
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys) [quote=firstdown;647100]1994 we did not win a divisional game. I think we need to bring an end to this ganthers experiment.[/quote] What would you have us do? We still have 1 game left. Honestly he's running better then Rock Cartwright. Mason....I might agree with you on. He's had his chance. I gave him more time then most on this site. If he can get his blocking down he might turn out to be a great runner. Wait....I think I said that about Mason also. LOL. Maybe Shanahan with his infinite wisdom and newer updated blocking scheme will get more out of both of them. Plus Alridge.

12-28-2009, 08:47 AM	#11
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 53 Posts: 5,006	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Cowboys) That was the manifestation of a series of events that lead to an eventual collapse. I started to yell at the TV at one point last night but then realized we were playing 3 OL who probably had no business out there, our 4th RB, our backup TE, our backup WR with a lame duck coach (who I am pretty sure was calling plays all night last night) and shrugged my shoulders like 'What did I expect to happen?' Campbell looked like pre-Lewis Campbell. Indecisive, tentative, scared of the rush. Reminded me of the KC game. His comments afterwards on Comcast were very telling, saying the situation was unfair and that he was very frustrated with not being given the opportunity to be successful by the lack of depth in some positions. You can also tell how frustrated he seemed to be with Zorn IMO at the 5 minute mark when Zorn punted down 17 points. I think he will embrace a new regime, if he's back. As much as I don't think turning over 4-5 starting OL in an offseason is ever a wise move, those clowns are awful. We've talked ad nauseam about Heyer and the RG rotation but Levi Jones has played pretty poorly for about 3 straight weeks now. Maybe he can be a RT but he's no longer a starting LT. Rabach is below average and Dockery hasn't shown to be more than just a guy. Obviously this will be job 1 for Shanahallen. I hope Landry enrolls in some geometry classes because he needs serious work on his angles. __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

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