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Old 04-23-2010, 09:23 AM   #1
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Day 2, rds 2 & 3.

I want to know what everybody thinks we should do, me personnally do nothing no trades keep everyone we already have. Based on this draft there will be a decent amount of good players let go because some teams drafted best player instead of need IMO. Ala Buffalo, Raiders & Tenn to name a few they made good picks but they have adequate players at those positions already.

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Old 04-23-2010, 09:31 AM   #2
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personally, i think this is a good time to expunge some players. get rid of jc, fat al, and whomever isnt going to fit long term plans for this team. granted the values of these guys may be 5ths or later, but..get some value.
hopefully they dont trade for clausen though
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:33 AM   #3
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personally, i think this is a good time to expunge some players. get rid of jc, fat al, and whomever isnt going to fit long term plans for this team. granted the values of these guys may be 5ths or later, but..get some value.
hopefully they dont trade for clausen though
Are you saying to trade AH for a 5th or later?
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:42 AM   #4
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Are you saying to trade AH for a 5th or later?
im saying trade him for a 7th if his fat ass doesnt want to be here. i get really sick of players who make 21 milion cry in times like these. If he mans up and doesnt pull his ass muscle too many times this year let him stay. id rather have an average player that plays his heart out every play consistantly, than a player that is a super star that only gives his team 1 out of every 10 plays
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:12 AM   #5
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im saying trade him for a 7th if his fat ass doesnt want to be here. i get really sick of players who make 21 milion cry in times like these. If he mans up and doesnt pull his ass muscle too many times this year let him stay. id rather have an average player that plays his heart out every play consistantly, than a player that is a super star that only gives his team 1 out of every 10 plays
can you show me a quote where he cried? Or stats to back up him only giving 1 out of every 10 plays? Of course I am being facetious, just as you were exaggerating (heavily).

The quote has been presented repeatedly where AH has said he will play whereever he is asked to. And to give away a guy who is a top talent in the league and brings it on the field for a 7th is utter redicularity. Yeah that's not a word, but then giving him up for a 7th isn't really an idea.
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Old 04-23-2010, 08:36 PM   #6
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im saying trade him for a 7th if his fat ass doesnt want to be here. i get really sick of players who make 21 milion cry in times like these. If he mans up and doesnt pull his ass muscle too many times this year let him stay. id rather have an average player that plays his heart out every play consistantly, than a player that is a super star that only gives his team 1 out of every 10 plays
link to him crying?

link to his poor stats?
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:38 PM   #7
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Are you saying to trade AH for a 5th or later?

Lol. Hopefully Shanahan's comments will finally shut up Andy Polin and the delusional fans who honestly believe the Redskins would be better off without Haynesworth.

I cannot remember a player who has produced more ridiculous trade scenarios.

Let's think about players the Redskins gave a 3rd rounder (or more) for:

A washed up Mark Brunell
A worthless/misused Brandon Lloyd
TJ "Mr. Inactive" Duckett

And people who claim to follow football closely really think it is a good move to dump "the most dominating player in the league" (voted by the players) for a third rounder or lower?

Let me make this final point. People floated an idea that Chris Cooley could get a first or second. Albert Haynesworth is so much better than Cooley it is pathetic. Albert may not have a blog, an annoying brother, and work for ocho cinco but between the lines, Al is light years ahead. So let's officially put this idiotic idea to bed.
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:09 AM   #8
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personally, i think this is a good time to expunge some players. get rid of jc, fat al, and whomever isnt going to fit long term plans for this team. granted the values of these guys may be 5ths or later, but..get some value.
hopefully they dont trade for clausen though
I'm with you on the "don't trade to draft Clausen" stance but, I think right now we're a better team keeping Campbell, Haynesworth, and McIntosh. They all have issues that can be worked out eventually.

If Campbell sits for a year learning from KS and McNabb, he'll be a UFA next year and he'll be valued as a starting QB more.

McIntosh is just bitter because he has earned an extension and hasn't gotten it, yet. He too will be valued as a starting LB if he plays for this one year tender and becomes a UFA.

Haynesworth wasn't gonna come to voluntary workouts regardless of who's coaching the team, or where he played.

Now, as far as Clausen goes (or any player that's high on the Skins board right now who continues to slip deeper in to round 2 or lower) there's a possibility of trading next year's 'first' or JC/Rocky/AH and a lower pick (2nd rounder or lower) next year to be able to draft that guy. Again this player has to be ranked very high on their board and has fallen into the 2nd or 3rd round today.
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:20 AM   #9
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I'm with you on the "don't trade to draft Clausen" stance but, I think right now we're a better team keeping Campbell, Haynesworth, and McIntosh. They all have issues that can be worked out eventually.

If Campbell sits for a year learning from KS and McNabb, he'll be a UFA next year and he'll be valued as a starting QB more.

McIntosh is just bitter because he has earned an extension and hasn't gotten it, yet. He too will be valued as a starting LB if he plays for this one year tender and becomes a UFA.

Haynesworth wasn't gonna come to voluntary workouts regardless of who's coaching the team, or where he played.

Now, as far as Clausen goes (or any player that's high on the Skins board right now who continues to slip deeper in to round 2 or lower) there's a possibility of trading next year's 'first' or JC/Rocky/AH and a lower pick (2nd rounder or lower) next year to be able to draft that guy. Again this player has to be ranked very high on their board and has fallen into the 2nd or 3rd round today.
Wait, are you suggesting we trade a 1st rounder next year or JC OR Rocky OR AH and a lower pick for a 2nd or 3rd round pick this year? I just want to make sure because that doesn't seem like a sound drafting philosophy
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:15 AM   #10
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I'm with you on the "don't trade to draft Clausen" stance but, I think right now we're a better team keeping Campbell, Haynesworth, and McIntosh. They all have issues that can be worked out eventually.

If Campbell sits for a year learning from KS and McNabb, he'll be a UFA next year and he'll be valued as a starting QB more.

McIntosh is just bitter because he has earned an extension and hasn't gotten it, yet. He too will be valued as a starting LB if he plays for this one year tender and becomes a UFA.

Haynesworth wasn't gonna come to voluntary workouts regardless of who's coaching the team, or where he played.

Now, as far as Clausen goes (or any player that's high on the Skins board right now who continues to slip deeper in to round 2 or lower) there's a possibility of trading next year's 'first' or JC/Rocky/AH and a lower pick (2nd rounder or lower) next year to be able to draft that guy. Again this player has to be ranked very high on their board and has fallen into the 2nd or 3rd round today.
If these guys just stay with their 1 yr. tenders and are UFAs next year, how does that help us? They go into the open market and we get nothing for them. Or they become more valuable and we have to pay more to keep them.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:26 AM   #11
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If these guys just stay with their 1 yr. tenders and are UFAs next year, how does that help us? They go into the open market and we get nothing for them. Or they become more valuable and we have to pay more to keep them.
These aren't the only guys in the league playing under a one year tender. Besides, if they prove their worth, the team will give them an extension before they hit the market.
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Old 04-23-2010, 01:13 PM   #12
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If these guys just stay with their 1 yr. tenders and are UFAs next year, how does that help us? They go into the open market and we get nothing for them. Or they become more valuable and we have to pay more to keep them.
If the next CBA still has compensatory picks, then we'd get picks for them.
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Old 04-23-2010, 01:25 PM   #13
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personally, i think this is a good time to expunge some players. get rid of jc, fat al, and whomever isnt going to fit long term plans for this team. granted the values of these guys may be 5ths or later, but..get some value.
hopefully they dont trade for clausen though
First off no team is going to give a 2-5 pick for JC. Just not going to happen. As for Fat Al there might be a outside chance we could get a pick. Facts are that unless we give up more picks in 2011 draft we are not picking in rounds 2-3 today. I think Allen and coach know that sometimes it's best to pay the prise of bad moves of the past[trading picks] and move on. As for Al make him come in and work for the money. If he dosen't like it let him be the waterboy! He payed a lot of money and it's time to be a man and a Pro football player. Facts are if he dose well that is the fastest way out of here. But to be a problem just makes it harder for him and the Redskins and No one wins there!
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:35 AM   #14
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The only moves I would like to see is JC to someone for a 3rd or high 4th, and possibly Rocky for a 4th. Otherwise, I'm ok with standing pat.
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The only moves I would like to see is JC to someone for a 3rd or high 4th, and possibly Rocky for a 4th. Otherwise, I'm ok with standing pat.
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