Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!

[dmvskinzfan08]

I questioned whether the defense would take a step back after Greg Williams left. The first year not so much. Blache stuck with most of the schemes Greg Williams used and our defense played decent. Greg used to rush the CBs and the safeties. It seems like he is doing less of that this year. We go with older lineman over more talented youth. Our Dbs play 10 yards off the ball. We only rush 4 D lineman. We put Orakpo at LB where is he a liability in coverage instead of using him on the D line.

We aren't good at tackling. Our secondary scheme sucks and we get no pressure on the QB so it makes the job even harder for the secondary. Has Blache not realized that "The Orakpo Experiment" is not working. You only hear his name during the game when he lines up as a rushers. I just feel like Blache is stubborn and has moved away from the Greg Williams scheme because he has become full of himself.

Someone commented and said that Greg Blache said that sacks are overrated. That tells of him being so full of himself that he thinks his schemes are better than common sense when it comes to football. At one point in the first half the Lions were 9-11 on 3rd down conversions. We can stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We have our issues on offense. But our D has underachieved by a long shot.

If your players are having problems tackling you make them work on it. If what you are doing is not working adapt and try something else. You can't keep doing the same things and expect different results. We go out and sign AH, draft Orakpo and pay D Hall all this money and our defense gets worse. Go figure!!

[Ruhskins]

Good point for discussion, though I would add the offensive coaches to be held accountable too. Gtripp will love this thread. LOL.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Good point for discussion, though I would add the offensive coaches to be held accountable too. Gtripp will love this thread. LOL.

We just lost to the Lions.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We just lost to the Lions.

Exactly......what else can you say, that just about sums it up!

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We just lost to the Lions.

Still in shock? Don't worry, the crying and breaking stuff mood will come shortly...

[MTK]

Everyone needs to be held accountable right now.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Everyone needs to be held accountable right now.

I totally agree. But the difference is Zorn is in his second year as a head coach. Blache has been coaching in this league for years and should know better. He has no excuse at all. I just feel at times when I see him in press conferences that he is full of himself and very stubborn. How do you give him more defensive toys and the D plays worse. Why wont he realize that his experiment with Orakpo has failed?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

I totally agree. But the difference is Zorn is in his second year as a head coach. Blache has been coaching in this league for years and should know better. He has no excuse at all. I just feel at times when I see him in press conferences that he is full of himself and very stubborn. How do you give him more defensive toys and the D plays worse. Why wont he realize that his experiment with Orakpo has failed?

Blache is more concerned with trying to come up with cute quotes.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Blache is more concerned with trying to come up with cute quotes.

I seriously can't stand him. Hearing his post-game with Kelly Johnson pissed me off. The first thing out of his mouth was how this wasn't the same Lions team as last year, different culture, different coach, blah blah blah. Like I really want to hear your stupid qualifiers for why your D got lit up en route to losing to a shit team, Greg.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I seriously can't stand him. Hearing his post-game with Kelly Johnson pissed me off. The first thing out of his mouth was how this wasn't the same Lions team as last year, different culture, different coach, blah blah blah. Like I really want to hear your stupid qualifiers for why your D got lit up en route to losing to a shit team, Greg.

One of the reasons I got really, really pissed off with Blache at the end of last year was how he managed to find all the wrong solutions to the simplest problems, and covered his ass with excuses with no regard for the long-term health of the team.

Problem: Carlos Rogers can't defend a double move when your stupid-ass 8 man run blitz doesn't get to Flacco

Solution: Conclude that Carlos isn't the same player he was in the first half of the season (against all evidence), then bench him for DeAngelo Hall.

Problem: Your pass defense can't get off the field in any of the final five games of the season

Solution: Remind everyone that only three teams have given up fewer yards than you.

Problem: Despite being one of the blitziest coordinators in the NFL, your defense ranks in the bottom five in both sacks and interceptions

Solution: Remind everyone that while big plays are nice, that only three teams have given up fewer yards than you.

Problem: You sign Albert Haynesworth in the offseason to bolster your pass rush

Solution: Remind everyone that you were the fourth overall defense in yards against the year before, and anything Albert brings to your gleaming excellence is really just a bonus. It was never about Albert, he's just a player in your scheme.

Basically, as long as you can point out that things aren't your fault, people will keep defending your non-results as a big important deal.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I seriously can't stand him. Hearing his post-game with Kelly Johnson pissed me off. The first thing out of his mouth was how this wasn't the same Lions team as last year, different culture, different coach, blah blah blah. Like I really want to hear your stupid qualifiers for why your D got lit up en route to losing to a shit team, Greg.

well you may not want to hear it but it's the truth. they've added some guys...julian peterson, grady jackson, larry foote, bryant johnson and a nice rookie te. plus they had the best player on the field in calvin johnson. and those same guys just flat out beat some of our guys in one one one matchups. they're not the same team as last year.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Everyone needs to be held accountable right now.

I was going to say the exact same thing.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

I questioned whether the defense would take a step back after Greg Williams left. The first year not so much. Blache stuck with most of the scheme Greg Williams used and our defense played decent. Greg used to rush the CBs and the safeties. It seems like he is doing less of that this year. We go with older lineman over more talented youth. Our Dbs play 10 yards off the ball. We only rush 4 D lineman. We put Orakpo at LB where is is a liability in coverage instead of using him on the D line.

We aren't good at tackling. Our secondary scheme sucks and we get no pressure on the QB so it makes the job even harder for the secondary. Has Blache not realized that "The Orakpo Experiment" is not working. You only hear his name during the game hwen he lines up as a rushers. I jsut feel like Blache is stubborn and has moved away from the Greg Blache scheme because he has become full of himself.

Someone commented and said that Greg Blache said that sacks are overrated. That tells of him being so narccisistic taht he thinks his schemes are better than common sense when it comes to football. At one point in the first half the Lions were 9-11 on 3rd down conversions. We can stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We have our issues on offense. But our D has underachieved by a long shot.

Why is Greg Blache here to begin with?

Why isn't another head coach in here with his own staff members? Perhaps because no level headed coaches will even dare take the Skins job under the current management structure.

Blache, Zorn, Campbell, Offense, Defense, it all comes down to the orgin points of how they are all there.

Points to one person if you ask me.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Why is Greg Blache here to begin with?

Why isn't another head coach in here with his own staff members? Perhaps because no level headed coaches will even dare to the Skins job under the current management structure.

Blache, Zorn, Campbell, Offense, Defense, it all comes down to the orgin points of how they are all there.

Points to one person if you ask me.

There goes the whole "let's blame only ONE person" attitude.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

There goes the whole "let's blame only ONE person" attitude.

You can effect all those other positions through that one person.

Better than toiling away trying to put your finger on what position we can improve. We just got toasted by the lions. Sure as shit ain't one position that's hurting us right now.

Keep changing positions one at a time and see where that gets you. See you at Spurrier 2.0.