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Old 12-25-2005, 09:53 AM   #1
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Do we REALLY need a star DE?

Or do we already have one....

Phillip Daniels has been playing amazing football. I know he has injury problems, but this guy could end up being a steal. When he has Salav'ae and Griffin in there to push the middle he gets amazing push off the edge. Even Wynn had a big game today@!
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Old 12-25-2005, 10:15 AM   #2
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Re: Do we REALLY need a star DE?

I'd like to see us use a draft pick on a young guy. Maybe look for an up-and-coming guy in free agency.
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Old 12-25-2005, 10:21 AM   #3
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Re: Do we REALLY need a star DE?

really who doesn't? Gettting one will do so much more for our d, but really, we need a compliment to moss ...
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Old 12-25-2005, 10:23 AM   #4
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Re: Do we REALLY need a star DE?

It looks like to really get into that elite level of play we could use a young stud DE, another DT (Nobles replacement) and a 2nd WR. Thats it. Should be easy to fill those needs between seasons. Then again, we seem to be rolling without these things...
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Old 12-25-2005, 03:05 PM   #5
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Re: Do we REALLY need a star DE?

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It looks like to really get into that elite level of play we could use a young stud DE, another DT (Nobles replacement) and a 2nd WR. Thats it. Should be easy to fill those needs between seasons. Then again, we seem to be rolling without these things...
You forgot another cornerback.
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Old 12-25-2005, 10:33 AM   #6
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Re: Do we REALLY need a star DE?

It's obvious when our DT's are healthy this is a much more effective defensive line.

I think DE should still be a priority though.
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Old 12-25-2005, 10:56 AM   #7
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Re: Do we REALLY need a star DE?

we need someone who can flat out rush the passer.doesnt much matter who the #2 receiver is because who ever the qback is they only look to moss(which is a good thing)
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Old 12-25-2005, 11:24 AM   #8
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Re: Do we REALLY need a star DE?

While I've been impressed with the pressure created by not only daniels but Clemons as well, I'd like the skins to still pick up another young pass rushing specialist and if Taylor Jacobs doesn't start to play, it's time to cut him lose and look for someone with a good combination of speed and size to compliment Moss. I don't know if anyone else watched a bit of the Hawaii Bowl last night but Central Florida has this Marshall kid who looks like he could be a pretty special talent and it'd be kewl if we could get someone like him with our 2nd round pick.
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Old 12-25-2005, 11:27 AM   #9
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Re: Do we REALLY need a star DE?

I'm not ready to write off Patten just yet for next year.

He never really had the chance to shine this year. Early in the year as an offense we were obsessed with Moss for obvious reasons... but I think Patten would have played a bigger role as the season went on. I think he can still be a solid #2.
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Old 12-25-2005, 11:40 AM   #10
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Re: Do we REALLY need a star DE?

im ready to write him off knee surgeries after 30 for a reciever never turns out well.
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Re: Do we REALLY need a star DE?

I dont understand the pure hate for Taylor Jacobs. In the Dallas game, he often had his man beat but Brunell never looks his way. I'd like to see him at least get an attempt at catching the ball till we say he cant cut it.
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Old 12-25-2005, 01:17 PM   #12
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Re: Do we REALLY need a star DE?

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I dont understand the pure hate for Taylor Jacobs. In the Dallas game, he often had his man beat but Brunell never looks his way. I'd like to see him at least get an attempt at catching the ball till we say he cant cut it.
As usual people's patience runs thin really quick around here.

I've always been a Jacobs supporter myself, but I'm starting to wonder when is the guy gonna step up already?

Perhaps he's just not getting open, or perhaps the offense is just so heavily geared toward Cooley and Moss (which isn't a bad thing right now). I'm guessing it has more to do with the latter.
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Old 12-25-2005, 04:43 PM   #13
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Re: Do we REALLY need a star DE?

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As usual people's patience runs thin really quick around here.

I've always been a Jacobs supporter myself, but I'm starting to wonder when is the guy gonna step up already?

Perhaps he's just not getting open, or perhaps the offense is just so heavily geared toward Cooley and Moss (which isn't a bad thing right now). I'm guessing it has more to do with the latter.
I know I posted before the season started and early in the season my high hopes for Jacobs, but he hasn't produced for the reasons u've listed. The main passing options are and should be Moss and Cooley but I think something that would help get Jacobs into the game in on some slants and crossing patterns or even swing it out to him on one of the wr screens which the team seem to pull off pretty well.
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Old 12-26-2005, 12:18 PM   #14
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Re: Do we REALLY need a star DE?

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As usual people's patience runs thin really quick around here.
What exactly is "really quickly"? Jacobs has produced nothing in the three years he's been on the team. Patten didn't have great numbers for the eight games he played, and everyone is ready to cut him though.:confused-

As far as the defensive line, we definitely still need a pass rushing defensive end. Daniels sudden leap in pass rushing ability is a direct result of the return of Cornelius Griffin. But even with Griffin, the line only managed one sack against the Giants, even though they were missing a few starting offensive lineman.
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Old 12-26-2005, 12:23 PM   #15
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Re: Do we REALLY need a star DE?

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What exactly is "really quickly"? Jacobs has produced nothing in the three years he's been on the team. Patten didn't have great numbers for the eight games he played, and everyone is ready to cut him though.:confused-

As far as the defensive line, we definitely still need a pass rushing defensive end. Daniels sudden leap in pass rushing ability is a direct result of the return of Cornelius Griffin. But even with Griffin, the line only managed one sack against the Giants, even though they were missing a few starting offensive lineman.
The knee jerk reactions are what I'm talking about.

If I had a dollar for every time someone called for a player to be cut, I wouldn't have to work right now.
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