Best QB on our roster for the current team and system

[hutch17]

I am writing this not thinking which QB on our team is the best athlete (Griffin) best leader and the most potential to be a REAL QB (Cousins) but who given the current roster and coaching style is going to win the most games this year.

I think given the primarily running (with two studs in Alfred and Matt Jones) and short passing with a much beefed up D Colt McCoy would win the most games this year. He doesn't make mistakes and is fantastic in the short game, then you let the two bruisers take care of the ground game and pound the opposing D line. His big weakness is arm strength so Desean will not be happy but I can live with that.

With all that said I would like to see what Kirk has in a whole season as I think he could be a legit starting QB in this league.

[Chico23231]

Kirk Cousins is the best QB on the team

[hutch17]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Kirk Cousins is the best QB on the team

I agree but to win this year I think it is Colt.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Kirk Cousins is the best QB on the team

This

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Kirk Cousins is the best QB on the team

This is why we are in trouble. Kirk looks good in preseason, BUT he can't handle the mental aspect of making mistakes when it counts. He is awful. He has proved this time and time again. The mental part of his game is what will be his downfall. But Redskins fans still have some belief that he can play. Go re-watch all of his Redskins tape from games that count. HE shits his pants. Constantly. He's a spot backup only in DC with this s-show at QB is he considered a starter.

McCoy, just like RG III cannot stay healthy. McCoy's next concussion in the NFL will be his last. Unless he is just to stupid to retire.

RG III, well he isn't any good either.

[Flyer97]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Kirk Cousins is the best QB on the team

That is why we are pretty much going to be stuck in 4th place in the NFC East again. It is a sad day when you have to look fondly back to having the likes of Gus Frerotte as your QB. Hell, I would take JC back even. MSU QBs do not make good starters in the NFL.

[Buffalo Bob]

Colt McCoy can win you a game or two as a back up here and there, but if he starts for any extended length of time defenses will take advantage of the fact he doesn't have NFL grade arm strength and can't make all the throws. I think it is a strange phenomena that it seems when a flawed career back up moves to another team or hasn't played in eons he can have some brief success as a starter then all his weaknesses are exposed again. He is then back to being lucky to complete 50% of his passes and throw for 125 yards. If McCoy is higher than your third stringer you have a QB problem.

RG3, off course he has shocked Redskin fans in a bad way. While most people can't believe that he is the same guy that won offensive rookie of the year. There is a pretty
simple explanation, first defensive coordinators have learned to stymie the dual threat quarterback. (see Colin Kaepernick) Unfortunately Robert's athleticism has also diminished
due to injury, that quick explosive first step that he used to avoid defenders is gone. There really is no such thing as a sophomore slump on an NFL QB who starts as a rookie.
It is defensive coordinators finally having enough film to expose all the weaknesses.
So basically Robert was hit with a double whammy and it appears he cannot learn new skills to replace the ones that were taken away.

I vote for Kirk, let us see what he can do as an extended starter. He has looked much more like a solid NFL QB than the other two when you compare everyone's A game. Of course when Kirk throws a pick and melts down he doesn't even look worthy of starting a D3 college game let alone in the NFL. Of the 3 he appears to me as the only one having upside. Maybe another year has helped him with the mental part of the game.

[Schneed10]

Doesn't matter. Here's how it will look, in my mind:

Expected Scenario:
- Defense improves some, offense gets back to the run game, we improve some

With Griffin, 6-10 or 7-9
With Cousins, 6-10 or 7-9
With McCoy, 6-10 or 7-9

Improvement scenario
- Defense improves a lot thanks to McLoughan, we find a surprise starter or two amongst the low draft picks and low budget free agent acquisitions, we become one of the best running teams in the league behind Moses and Scherff, and everyone stays healthy

With Griffin, 8-8 or 9-7
With Cousins, 8-8 or 9-7
With McCoy, 8-8 or 9-7

None of the QBs are that good, none differentiate themselves from one another. They've got different problems, but they all add up to mediocre. Griffin can't get rid of the ball fast enough. I've still seen nothing to tell me Cousins won't turn it over. And McCoy is just alright, not enough arm talent to excel.

If we're going to get better, it won't be because one of the QBs stand out. It will be because McLoughan's surrounding cast helps us make strides.

PS our head coach sucks so best to expect 6-10 and let anything beyond that be a pleasant surprise.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Doesn't matter. Here's how it will look, in my mind:

Expected Scenario:
- Defense improves some, offense gets back to the run game, we improve some

With Griffin, 6-10 or 7-9
With Cousins, 6-10 or 7-9
With McCoy, 6-10 or 7-9

I think the 6-10 Redskins will be more enjoyable to watch with Kirk, than the 6-10 Redskins with the other two. At their current level I feel the Redskins have a chance against anybody if Kirk throws his A-game. There are too many teams that will make it impossible on the 2015 version of RG3 and Colt.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

I think the 6-10 Redskins will be more enjoyable to watch with Kirk, than the 6-10 Redskins with the other two. At their current level I feel the Redskins have a chance against anybody if Kirk throws his A-game. There are too many teams that will make it impossible on the 2015 version of RG3 and Colt.

And at least the Wide Receivers get to participate in the game and the O-line isn't made to look terrible with Kirk at the helm. RG3 makes everyone around him worse.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

If we're going to get better, it won't be because one of the QBs stand out. It will be because McLoughan's surrounding cast helps us make strides.

PS our head coach sucks so best to expect 6-10 and let anything beyond that be a pleasant surprise.

Bingo. And I think that's McCloughan's plan. Improve other aspects of the team first, and then address the QB. This is why I don't lose much sleep over any of the current QBs.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Doesn't matter. Here's how it will look, in my mind:

Expected Scenario:
- Defense improves some, offense gets back to the run game, we improve some

With Griffin, 6-10 or 7-9
With Cousins, 6-10 or 7-9
With McCoy, 6-10 or 7-9

Improvement scenario
- Defense improves a lot thanks to McLoughan, we find a surprise starter or two amongst the low draft picks and low budget free agent acquisitions, we become one of the best running teams in the league behind Moses and Scherff, and everyone stays healthy

With Griffin, 8-8 or 9-7
With Cousins, 8-8 or 9-7
With McCoy, 8-8 or 9-7

None of the QBs are that good, none differentiate themselves from one another. They've got different problems, but they all add up to mediocre. Griffin can't get rid of the ball fast enough. I've still seen nothing to tell me Cousins won't turn it over. And McCoy is just alright, not enough arm talent to excel.

If we're going to get better, it won't be because one of the QBs stand out. It will be because McLoughan's surrounding cast helps us make strides.

PS our head coach sucks so best to expect 6-10 and let anything beyond that be a pleasant surprise.

How would you see anything from KC that would indicate he can limit the turnovers when he's not been allowed to play. He hasn't turned it over this pre-season, and that's the only time he's played. Can't show you anything from the bench.

What tantalizes a lot of KC supporters, myself included, is all the other stats he piled up. Interceptions and his response to them is a concern, but he wouldn't be the first QB to improve in both areas with more experience. As much of a turnover machine some people would have you think he is, he still had more TDs last year than interceptions. If he solves that issue, his stats put him in the top 5-10 in the league.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

How would you see anything from KC that would indicate he can limit the turnovers when he's not been allowed to play. He hasn't turned it over this pre-season, and that's the only time he's played. Can't show you anything from the bench.

What tantalizes a lot of KC supporters, myself included, is all the other stats he piled up. Interceptions and his response to them is a concern, but he wouldn't be the first QB to improve in both areas with more experience. As much of a turnover machine some people would have you think he is, he still had more TDs last year than interceptions. If he solves that issue, his stats put him in the top 5-10 in the league.

If a frog had wings then the Pope wouldn't shit in the woods.

[Schneed10]

PPS, reality is we're going to have at least two of these guys getting playing time this year.

Griffin WILL get hurt at some point. Dude has no feel for how to avoid getting smashed.

[DynamiteRave]

I think Cousins could truly be a starter if he stopped panicking and forcing passes.

I can look at Cousins and see he wants to win but that desire turns into disaster because he forces too many passes that just aren't there. If he let's the game come to him and learns to accept that if a guy is covered just take the incomplete and punt, he'd be amazeballs.