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Old 01-24-2014, 12:54 PM   #1
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Fred Davis Bye Bye

Report: Redskins TE Fred Davis faces suspension for failed marijuana test | SI Wire

What a waste of talent.
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Old 01-24-2014, 12:57 PM   #2
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There's nothing worse than wasted TALENT. With a PUFF of smoke he's gone.
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Old 01-24-2014, 01:00 PM   #3
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I thought he was a long shot to return regardless.

What a dummy.
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Old 01-24-2014, 01:04 PM   #4
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The man Loves his weed.
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Old 01-24-2014, 01:04 PM   #5
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With marijuana becoming more and more acceptable (not legal yet) it's a shame to see the NFL ban a talented player for something like this. Yeah, I know, its illegal, and there is a whole thread on this topic in the debating with the enemies section. But so many lives have been wasted over such a meaningless prohibition. The NFL should tacitly acknowledge the changing world, and just offer rehab and help, not extreme punishments.
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Old 01-24-2014, 01:35 PM   #6
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With marijuana becoming more and more acceptable (not legal yet) it's a shame to see the NFL ban a talented player for something like this. Yeah, I know, its illegal, and there is a whole thread on this topic in the debating with the enemies section. But so many lives have been wasted over such a meaningless prohibition. The NFL should tacitly acknowledge the changing world, and just offer rehab and help, not extreme punishments.
It's still illegal in most places. So should the league also ignore players with DUIs, Giants players who shoot themselves in the leg in NYC clubs, QBs who rape and those who kill animals, and players getting in altercations with cops, wives, baby mommas and random strangers?

Sure, there's a degree of how many people those crimes effect but they're still crimes and the league probably is within its rights to suspend and try to control their employees as they wish. The game has to be kept somewhat family-friendly as much as possible to remain profitable. Take a look at the NBA, who has far less of a grasp on its players' behavior than the NFL.

I know the pot fanatics think it's all innocent and harmless, but at this point it's still a primarily illegal activity no matter how many people want to change the law.
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Old 01-24-2014, 01:57 PM   #7
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It's still illegal in most places. So should the league also ignore players with DUIs, Giants players who shoot themselves in the leg in NYC clubs, QBs who rape and those who kill animals, and players getting in altercations with cops, wives, baby mommas and random strangers?

Sure, there's a degree of how many people those crimes effect but they're still crimes and the league probably is within its rights to suspend and try to control their employees as they wish. The game has to be kept somewhat family-friendly as much as possible to remain profitable. Take a look at the NBA, who has far less of a grasp on its players' behavior than the NFL.

I know the pot fanatics think it's all innocent and harmless, but at this point it's still a primarily illegal activity no matter how many people want to change the law.
smoking pot is in no way equivalent to your strawmen. Goodell has already made some points about using marijuana for medical reasons.
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It's still illegal in most places. So should the league also ignore players with DUIs, Giants players who shoot themselves in the leg in NYC clubs, QBs who rape and those who kill animals, and players getting in altercations with cops, wives, baby mommas and random strangers?

Sure, there's a degree of how many people those crimes effect but they're still crimes and the league probably is within its rights to suspend and try to control their employees as they wish. The game has to be kept somewhat family-friendly as much as possible to remain profitable. Take a look at the NBA, who has far less of a grasp on its players' behavior than the NFL.

I know the pot fanatics think it's all innocent and harmless, but at this point it's still a primarily illegal activity no matter how many people want to change the law.
So is jaywalking. We should really crack down on these jaywalkers… it's illegal in most places.

Also not sure the NBA has far less of a grasp on it's players.
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It's still illegal in most places. So should the league also ignore players with DUIs, Giants players who shoot themselves in the leg in NYC clubs, QBs who rape and those who kill animals, and players getting in altercations with cops, wives, baby mommas and random strangers?

Sure, there's a degree of how many people those crimes effect but they're still crimes and the league probably is within its rights to suspend and try to control their employees as they wish. The game has to be kept somewhat family-friendly as much as possible to remain profitable. Take a look at the NBA, who has far less of a grasp on its players' behavior than the NFL.

I know the pot fanatics think it's all innocent and harmless, but at this point it's still a primarily illegal activity no matter how many people want to change the law.
You sound like a middle aged person with that attitude toward pot. Even worse you tossed Fred Davis in with rapists and wife beaters. I see you are
in your 30's and I am the middle aged one. Pot is way less dangerous than alcohol whether illegal or not For the record I do not smoke, but believe it
should be legal everywhere in the USA for people 18 and over. I have known
quite a few regular pot smokers, they have never caused a problem while
stoned, most won't even drive while high, they just chill out. On the other hand I knew plenty of people who grew "beer muscles" when drinking, picked
fights, drove too fast, crashed cars,etc,etc. I have known many a falling down drunk that was so proud they didn't smoke pot. If you are so big on calling pot illegal so is driving over the speed limit, have you ever done that?
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With marijuana becoming more and more acceptable (not legal yet) it's a shame to see the NFL ban a talented player for something like this. Yeah, I know, its illegal, and there is a whole thread on this topic in the debating with the enemies section. But so many lives have been wasted over such a meaningless prohibition. The NFL should tacitly acknowledge the changing world, and just offer rehab and help, not extreme punishments.
I would agree, but the bothersome thing to me is he put his career in jeopardy fully knowing the consquences. If I or any of us were told "hey dont do this or you will be fired" then we most likely would quit the activity. Could it be addiction? Sure, but he was given the opportunity to seek help. Another thing is the public knowledge. If everyone knew I had issue keeping clean at work and in the public, I would be embarressed and it would motivate me to clean up. Some people just dont give a damn. This is the same guy who came clean to the public "yeah, I sleep in meetings", I mean com'on man!
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Old 01-24-2014, 02:17 PM   #11
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I would agree, but the bothersome thing to me is he put his career in jeopardy fully knowing the consquences. If I or any of us were told "hey dont do this or you will be fired" then we most likely would quit the activity. Could it be addiction? Sure, but he was given the opportunity to seek help. Another thing is the public knowledge. If everyone knew I had issue keeping clean at work and in the public, I would be embarressed and it would motivate me to clean up. Some people just dont give a damn. This is the same guy who came clean to the public "yeah, I sleep in meetings", I mean com'on man!
Not arguing this part. If he goes, cya.
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Further, I think this lowers his cost, keep him, and let him get back on track with a new coaching staff.
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Further, I think this lowers his cost, keep him, and let him get back on track with a new coaching staff.
I agree on the vet minimum but he is gonna miss 6 games.
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Further, I think this lowers his cost, keep him, and let him get back on track with a new coaching staff.
What makes you think he'll be any different going into his 7th season with his 3rd coaching staff?

If he hasn't gotten it by now maybe it's time to just move on.
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