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Old 03-22-2005, 12:38 PM   #1
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On the Hole(s)...

I don't know about you guys, but I'm stressed out. I've accepted the fact that no one knows for sure who we'll draft come draft day. Would someone please tell me at what positions could we use added depth or upgrade? Some will say we have very few holes and we just need that one player who could start and make a difference. Others vow to believe that we need more lower round picks solely for backup roles. Which is it? I feel like writing a letter to dear Abbey. From Sulking 'Skinsfan...
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Old 03-22-2005, 12:45 PM   #2
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I think if you have a top 10 pick you pick talent. If DJ fell to us at 9, I would consider them trying to pick him up. Even though we're loaded at LB he's probably the best player in the draft. That said for a team in the state we are it may be better to go WR or CB whichever is best available. Whoever we draft we shouldn't expect to make a difference right away. I say if we keep what we have we go WR, CB in 1/3 then just look for backup D/O line, blocking TE. Those are really the only holes I see. WR, CB, TE, Dline in that order. I say we stay put and get the best player we can, who might be Mike Williams/Pac Man.
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Old 03-22-2005, 02:53 PM   #3
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I think if you have a top 10 pick you pick talent. If DJ fell to us at 9, I would consider them trying to pick him up. Even though we're loaded at LB he's probably the best player in the draft. That said for a team in the state we are it may be better to go WR or CB whichever is best available. Whoever we draft we shouldn't expect to make a difference right away. I say if we keep what we have we go WR, CB in 1/3 then just look for backup D/O line, blocking TE. Those are really the only holes I see. WR, CB, TE, Dline in that order. I say we stay put and get the best player we can, who might be Mike Williams/Pac Man.

I know the kid is a player but I am not a proponate of drafting LB's that early unless Lawerence Taylor is avail. especially with Williams at the helm you need athletes there but you don't need superstar's, DJ is not really an inside guy and probably moving him inside would limit his abilities some, we just signed Clemon's who probably is as fast if not faster than DJ so I wouldn't be picking a LB in the first rd, but I would be looking for a MLB later in the draft.

My draft strategy would be to trade down a few spot's if possible and draft Rolle I think he will still be avail. around 15 or so, then do what I have to do to make sure I get Vincent Jackson in the second, I still feel we need a real #1 possession type reciever and I think this kid will be it, so much so that I am willing to let William's go if he's avail. when we pick, this strategy will net us 2 player's instead of 1 and fill 2 need's and save us some much needed cap room.


Besides Daseal what would we do with big time Lavar if we drafted DJ?
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Old 03-22-2005, 03:22 PM   #4
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... My draft strategy would be to trade down a few spot's if possible and draft Rolle I think he will still be avail. around 15 or so, then do what I have to do to make sure I get Vincent Jackson in the second, I still feel we need a real #1 possession type reciever and I think this kid will be it, so much so that I am willing to let William's go if he's avail. when we pick, this strategy will net us 2 player's instead of 1 and fill 2 need's and save us some much needed cap room.
I was with you until you threw in Jackson being picked in the second round. Why are you so fond of him? He could fall as low as the fourth round. There's a possibility SD would want to trade up (for those who believe it's not competitively logical for division rivals to trade) from 12th overall to draft a guy they really like. They also have another selection at 28th and a second rounder at #61. So it seems likely a deal would be able to be worked out if that was the case.
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Old 03-22-2005, 03:32 PM   #5
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I was with you until you threw in Jackson being picked in the second round. Why are you so fond of him? He could fall as low as the fourth round. There's a possibility SD would want to trade up (for those who believe it's not competitively logical for division rivals to trade) from 12th overall to draft a guy they really like. They also have another selection at 28th and a second rounder at #61. So it seems likely a deal would be able to be worked out if that was the case.

I don't see him falling to the 4th but you may be right about him in the early 2nd I just want to know we get him, the reason I like him and I know I am going out on a limb here but I think he just may be better than Williams, I saw their combines and Jackson is a better athlete than Williams, he's bigger and faster, his hand's are probably not quite as good as Williams but he does have good hand's [Williams hand's are phenomal] that's why I want him, I don't care where we draft him at so long as we get him after the 1st rd which will net us Rolle.
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Old 03-22-2005, 12:52 PM   #6
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Re: On the Hole(s)...

TRADE away the pick and get more!!!!!!

Youll find more Gibbs type players later on.
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Old 03-22-2005, 01:22 PM   #7
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TRADE away the pick and get more!!!!!!

Youll find more Gibbs type players later on.
Tell that to Lavar, Portis, & company that is counting on the front office to draft some talent to help now!!!

Not a wise choice if you ask me. Take the best available player at #9 that will best impact the team now & draft later picks to add depth in years to come.
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Old 03-22-2005, 12:54 PM   #8
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Too bad all those "Gibbs type players" will ride the bench or get cut before the season starts. Remember, we have a lot of core guys already and only a 53 man roster come the season.
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Old 03-22-2005, 12:55 PM   #9
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just so long as we dump the rotting pile of elephant dung that is Gardner before draft day .........that would be an exceptional draft in and of itself
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Old 03-22-2005, 12:56 PM   #10
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Re: On the Hole(s)...

we have the 9th pick, we have the opportunity to pick an immediate starter. Id be very surprised if we didnt take Rolle if he was available, and he would be nickel corner during preseason while he earns his stripes. I dont see us picking a receiverr unless Williams falls.
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Old 03-22-2005, 01:01 PM   #11
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Re: On the Hole(s)...

our first pick is probably williams or jones, but we don't have any gaping holes... Our WR corp is still weak on the #1 spot, though its very strong from 2-5 or so... CB isnt a real need other than the fact that we don't have a 4th high level CB for injury insurance (maybe lott or brown will prove to be that guy), but the real reason to get a CB would be that our #1 and 2 are past 30 now....

LB is deep, though a playmaker for the middle could prove usesful... but we could honestly use playmakers anywhere but FS and OLB (and RB and on the Oline minus guard) right now, though none are really needed (except williams )

the only real hole is blocking TE, but you can get those in the 5th round if you want... though finding a great one may be hard since there aren't nearly as many in college as there were in the 80s, we could still find a decent quality one...
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Re: On the Hole(s)...

Who says they will ride the bench? With Gibbs the competition is always open. I feel comfortable with our DB's now, and we could even pick up one later in the draft like Bartell. Then get depth for our O-Line and D-Line.
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Old 03-22-2005, 01:14 PM   #13
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Always open eh? Someone didn't watch the first 8 games of the season and who we had quarterbacking.

Don't you think that late round talent was more the genius of the personel director than Gibbs? He was able to plug them into an already succesfull team, which is all they needed to shine!
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Old 03-22-2005, 01:15 PM   #14
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Re: On the Hole(s)...

I'd have to say CB & DE/DT. WR is a need for depth, but I'm willing to live with a later round pick.

CB - Antrel Rolle SR 6-1/202/- Miami (Fl) or Adam Jones JR 5-11/185/4.50 West Virginia (One of these guys will be available at #9.)

DE/DT - Travis Johnson SR 6-5/286/- Florida State, Shaun Cody SR 6-3.5/290/- USC, Erasmus James SR 6-4/270/- Wisconsin, or Dan Cody SR 6-5/265/- Oklahoma

WR - Reggie Brown SR 6-2/197/- Georgia, J.R. Russell SR 6-3/205/4.55 Louisville, or Chauncey Stovall SR 6-2/215/4.55 Florida State
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Old 03-22-2005, 01:16 PM   #15
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That's the thing. If we just have to sit back and draft the best player available what if let's say Aaron Rodgers or Alex Smith is available at #9 do we pick him? For those who are quick to say 'no' because we have young gun Ramsey and Brunell aren't we equally deep at other positions? Why draft another LB, OL, DB, or WR?
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