How would you rank him?

firstdown · 02-10-2005, 12:30 PM

With all the talk about Smoot there has been little talk of his tallent. Where would you rank Smoot among the other corners in the league and is he asking for more than he is worth?

MTK · 02-10-2005, 12:45 PM

Top 10 maybe, top 15 definitely. Definitely not top 5 money like he's looking for.

aehs77 · 02-10-2005, 12:50 PM

15 sounds about right

dirtbag2112 · 02-10-2005, 12:55 PM

I would put Springs way ahead of Smoot.

Redskins_P · 02-10-2005, 01:01 PM

Top 15...no way he's top 5.

Daseal · 02-10-2005, 01:28 PM

Top 15 - Good CB, but certainly not elite!

RedskinRat · 02-10-2005, 01:38 PM

Plays bigger than he is, but not in the same league as Dieon Sanders.

RedskinRat · 02-10-2005, 01:40 PM

I'M KIDDING!

I love Smoot, I think he's what Gibbs defines as a Redskin. How do you equate that to pay? It's tough.......I just hope they get the deal done or I'm going to have to replate another authentic jersey, damn it.

Redskins_P · 02-10-2005, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

I'M KIDDING!

I love Smoot, I think he's what Gibbs defines as a Redskin. How do you equate that to pay? It's tough.......I just hope they get the deal done or I'm going to have to replate another authentic jersey, damn it.

Dude, don't feel bad. I had to do the same with my Champ jersey.

RedskinRat · 02-10-2005, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Dude, don't feel bad. I had to do the same with my Champ jersey.

Fortunately there's a Chick's Sports that does some good plate and number work for me. $15 saves an authentic from being an embarrassment.

Redskins_P · 02-10-2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Fortunately there's a Chick's Sports that does some good plate and number work for me. $15 saves an authentic from being an embarrassment.

Yeah, I'm thinking of making my Champ jersey....a Kelvin Bryant jersey!

Big C · 02-10-2005, 02:29 PM

CBs above smoot in no order

ronde barber, surtain, law, bailey, mcalister, winfield, springs, clements, mckenzie, dunta robinson, bly...i have him at 13th best. i think he beats out madison at this stage in his career, rolle, sheppard, etc.

SkinsRock · 02-10-2005, 03:35 PM

I'd say he's in the 10-15 range, probably closer to 10. So much of rating CB's is subjective.....someone can have a "great year" with a lot of stats, or they can not have the stats because they are doing their job, and the ball isn't thrown their way. I think Smoot usually falls somewhere in between, and I agree with RedskinRat in that he "plays bigger than he is." The past couple years he has really worked on his tackling and toughness, and I love the way he just throws his body around to make a tackle.
He is asking for too much, but I truly hope he and Skins can compromise and work out a deal to keep him around. It will be interesting if they don't, he becomes a free agent and doesn't get offers for the $$$ he wants...would he come back to the Skins' offer???

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-10-2005, 03:24 PM

Antoine Winfield just got a 6 year $35 million deal with a $10.8 million signing bonus. That's about what we offered Smoot and he's not as good as Winfield (who's far more physical).

celts32 · 02-10-2005, 03:33 PM

We all agree that he's asking for to much money. This is where the Redskins run into trouble all the time. They give other teams players above market deals and then they expect their own players to stay for market or below market deals. When a loyal current Redskin sees outsiders handed the keys to the cookie jar they end up slighted if they are not treated in the same manner. In pro sports money equals love and respect. I think if the Redskins start treating all free agents with a level hand no matter what jersey they wore last year they will find negotiations easier in the future.

As for his ranking I would agree with the previous posts that place him around 15th.

02-10-2005, 12:30 PM	#1
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	How would you rank him? With all the talk about Smoot there has been little talk of his tallent. Where would you rank Smoot among the other corners in the league and is he asking for more than he is worth?

02-10-2005, 02:29 PM	#12
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	CBs above smoot in no order ronde barber, surtain, law, bailey, mcalister, winfield, springs, clements, mckenzie, dunta robinson, bly...i have him at 13th best. i think he beats out madison at this stage in his career, rolle, sheppard, etc. __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

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02-10-2005, 12:45 PM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Top 10 maybe, top 15 definitely. Definitely not top 5 money like he's looking for.

02-10-2005, 12:50 PM	#3
aehs77 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: silver spring Age: 39 Posts: 486	15 sounds about right

02-10-2005, 12:55 PM	#4
dirtbag2112 Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 293	I would put Springs way ahead of Smoot.

02-10-2005, 01:01 PM	#5
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Top 15...no way he's top 5.

02-10-2005, 01:28 PM	#6
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Top 15 - Good CB, but certainly not elite!

02-10-2005, 01:38 PM	#7
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Plays bigger than he is, but not in the same league as Dieon Sanders.

02-10-2005, 01:40 PM	#8
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	I'M KIDDING! I love Smoot, I think he's what Gibbs defines as a Redskin. How do you equate that to pay? It's tough.......I just hope they get the deal done or I'm going to have to replate another authentic jersey, damn it.

02-10-2005, 03:35 PM	#13
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	I'd say he's in the 10-15 range, probably closer to 10. So much of rating CB's is subjective.....someone can have a "great year" with a lot of stats, or they can not have the stats because they are doing their job, and the ball isn't thrown their way. I think Smoot usually falls somewhere in between, and I agree with RedskinRat in that he "plays bigger than he is." The past couple years he has really worked on his tackling and toughness, and I love the way he just throws his body around to make a tackle. He is asking for too much, but I truly hope he and Skins can compromise and work out a deal to keep him around. It will be interesting if they don't, he becomes a free agent and doesn't get offers for the $$$ he wants...would he come back to the Skins' offer???

02-10-2005, 03:24 PM	#14
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Antoine Winfield just got a 6 year $35 million deal with a $10.8 million signing bonus. That's about what we offered Smoot and he's not as good as Winfield (who's far more physical).

02-10-2005, 03:33 PM	#15
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 53 Posts: 2,665	We all agree that he's asking for to much money. This is where the Redskins run into trouble all the time. They give other teams players above market deals and then they expect their own players to stay for market or below market deals. When a loyal current Redskin sees outsiders handed the keys to the cookie jar they end up slighted if they are not treated in the same manner. In pro sports money equals love and respect. I think if the Redskins start treating all free agents with a level hand no matter what jersey they wore last year they will find negotiations easier in the future. As for his ranking I would agree with the previous posts that place him around 15th.

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