Yet another reason why Cris Carter is a moron

[MTK]

Cris Carter: Calvin Johnson is great in video games, not in real football | ProFootballTalk

and now this

Carter backtracks on his Calvin Johnson critique | ProFootballTalk

[Chico23231]

Dudes gotta a long hatte list

[SmootSmack]

He's my colleague, so I'm going to keep quiet...and that should tell you how I feel

[NC_Skins]

Why does ESPN hire all the idiots? (millen, ceratto, carter, etc) Oh, ratings...I forget. Stupid people that cause controversy > intelligent people with facts to base their thoughts on.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Why does ESPN hire all the idiots? (millen, ceratto, carter, etc) Oh, ratings...I forget. Stupid people that cause controversy > intelligent people with facts to base their thoughts on.

Just so I can calibrate who you think are "smart" anaylsts that ESPN OUGHT to hire, can you provide a few names?

And if Joe Theisman is on your list, I will exercise my option not to pay any attention to what you have to say on this matter.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

And if Joe Theisman is on your list, I will exercise my option not to pay any attention to what you have to say on this matter.

Theisman is a straight up homer. I almost hate listening to him commentate a game. Troy Aikman is a good commentator with Fox. Mike Mayock with NFL is a good commentator. Steve Young is a good one, as is Jimmy Johnson (even though he's a Redskins hatter). Jon Gruden, Chris Collinsworth, Boomer E. I guess I don't have a problem with Millen as a commentator, but its really hard to listen to his advice given what he did in Detroit. It would be like getting financial advice from the guys who crashed the housing/banking market on Wall Street. Do they know their stuff? Sure. Would you take advice from them after all that went on? Probably not. Millen knows X's and O's. No doubt about that, it's his personnel comments that I take with a grain of salt.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Theisman is a straight up homer. I almost hate listening to him commentate a game. Troy Aikman is a good commentator with Fox. Mike Mayock with NFL is a good commentator. Steve Young is a good one, as is Jimmy Johnson (even though he's a Redskins hatter). Jon Gruden, Chris Collinsworth, Boomer E. I guess I don't have a problem with Millen as a commentator, but its really hard to listen to his advice given what he did in Detroit. It would be like getting financial advice from the guys who crashed the housing/banking market on Wall Street. Do they know their stuff? Sure. Would you take advice from them after all that went on? Probably not. Millen knows X's and O's. No doubt about that, it's his personnel comments that I take with a grain of salt.

Good. That is a list of analysts/commentators who do a good job on the air and who seem to know their ass from the first-down marker when it comes to football.

Note that you mentioned seven gentlemen and three of them - - 42% - - are already employed by ESPN. So, I guess the folks in Bristol don't only hire stupid people to be on-air commentators.

I would add ESPN's Marcellus Wiley and Trent Dilfer to your list. Neither was a great player, but both offer insightful comments.

And what about ESPN's Ron Jaworski? His voice might be a little annoying, but the snippets of game film he shows with his analysis are usually VERY good.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Just so I can calibrate who you think are "smart" anaylsts that ESPN OUGHT to hire, can you provide a few names?

And if Joe Theisman is on your list, I will exercise my option not to pay any attention to what you have to say on this matter.

I think you'll be hard pressed to find a lot of people around here who think Theismann is a good commentator.

[GMScud]

From the PFT article:

I’m not going to go so far as to say that Carter is simply wrong with his assessment of who the elite receivers in the NFL are, since judging the greatness of a wide receiver is a subjective exercise — as Carter himself has found out when getting passed over for the Hall of Fame. But I will say that Carter’s analysis was weak.

LOL. That about sums it up. I love the shot at him for getting passed over for the HOF multiple times.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He's my colleague, so I'm going to keep quiet...and that should tell you how I feel

'nuff said.

[SmootSmack]

Thanks.

People forget how highly regarded Millen was just a few years ago, and that multiple networks have employed him

But yeah, let's pick a couple of people and extrapolate it across the entire company.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Thanks.

People forget how highly regarded Millen was just a few years ago, and that multiple networks have employed him

But yeah, let's pick a couple of people and extrapolate it across the entire company.

When was Millen ever highly regarded? The only time I can think of is when he was playing in the NFL. Ever since his tenure at Detroit, he's pretty much been on the wrong end of jokes. Also, I think you took that wrong (and personally) Smoot about my comment towards ESPN. My reference to them hiring "all the idiots" was to some of their commentators. (much like NFL has JLC) I realize they have a good amount of commentators that do a great job.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Thanks.

People forget how highly regarded Millen was just a few years ago, and that multiple networks have employed him

But yeah, let's pick a couple of people and extrapolate it across the entire company.

I don't. I found it funny that everyone followed the weird meme that Millen was some complete and total failure. He sucked as a GM...but at one point he was the next Madden and I seem to remember he played a little ball before that.

[firstdown]

Everywhere you turn there is a media outlet so people do and say things trying to stand out in the crowd. Problem is that most of the time it actually just makes them look stupid.

[Stuck in TX]

15 years ago did anyone ever think Deon Sanders would be a more reputable contributer in the NFL media than Chris Carter?