On Brian Orakpo and holding

[MTK]

D.C. Sports Bog - On Brian Orakpo and holding

He would probably be leading the league in sacks if it weren't for all the holding.

[CRedskinsRule]

I liked the idea of holding having an option for a loss of down penalty that someone else brought up, especially if it was done to prevent a sack.

Some of the non-calls are really bad, but as the article states, it probably could be called every play.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I liked the idea of holding having an option for a loss of down penalty that someone else brought up, especially if it was done to prevent a sack.

Some of the non-calls are really bad, but as the article states, it probably could be called every play.

I really like this idea. The problem is it will never happen because the NFL owners would never pass such a rule. It goes against everything they are trying to do. The NFL is becoming a flag football league where passing is glorified and running the ball is seen as boring, rules are made so QB's and receivers are overly protected.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I really like this idea. The problem is it will never happen because the NFL owners would never pass such a rule. It goes against everything they are trying to do. The NFL is becoming a flag football league where passing is glorified and running the ball is seen as boring, rules are made so QB's and receivers are overly protected.

You can blame Bill Polian for the illegal contact rule. I hope we smash the Colts in just like we did to Buffalo in the Super Bowl. Hit Manning like a rag doll, run all over them, etc so those sorry ass finessers feel the might of SMASHMOUTH FOOTBALL.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

You can blame Bill Polian for the illegal contact rule. I hope we smash the Colts in just like we did to Buffalo in the Super Bowl. Hit Manning like a rag doll, run all over them, etc so those sorry ass finessers feel the might of SMASHMOUTH FOOTBALL.

Hell Yeah!
Finessers should stick to watch golf or Canadian football, which is what we are becoming. Leave NFL football alone...or better yet go back to the pre-1992 rules. Back when football was for men and the finessers work in their garden on Sunday's with their wives.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

You can blame Bill Polian for the illegal contact rule. I hope we smash the Colts in just like we did to Buffalo in the Super Bowl. Hit Manning like a rag doll, run all over them, etc so those sorry ass finessers feel the might of SMASHMOUTH FOOTBALL.

Well you sure as hell fired me up! Bring on the freakin' Packers !!!

[mredskins]

Orakpo or the coaches need to get more vocal with the officials, the squeaky wheel gets the oil.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Orakpo or the coaches need to get more vocal with the officials, the squeaky wheel gets the oil.

I don't see Orakpo as the type to get in an official's face, but I certainly wouldn't mind Shanahan or Haslett doing it on his behalf. I hope to see Haynesworth get more play at DE next to Orakpo - that will certainly lead to more QB pressures and sacks.

[Monkeydad]

Or he needs to start flailing when held and make it impossible to NOT call. Make it obvious, Rak. When teams have to stop holding because they're racking up hold calls...demolish their QB. He did this somewhat on the Columbo hold on the last play vs. Dallas.

I thought having the umpire as a second official in the backfield would increase the hold calls they catch, but that hasn't been the case yet. Orakpo is getting held around the throat on most plays.

The officials are doing a better job of containing him than opposing linemen.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Funny comment from the article: "Jason Peters was all like, 'Ocrapko!'"

[Monkeydad]

From the article:

"I never hold," center Casey Rabach told me. "It's against the rules. Obviously."

This IS obvious.

[skinster]

Originally Posted by Buster

From the article:




This IS obvious.

the way he plays, maybe he should hold a little more...

also orakpo would not be leading the league is sacks because EVERYONE gets held

[LavaRnChad]

Originally Posted by skinster

the way he plays, maybe he should hold a little more...

also orakpo would not be leading the league is sacks because EVERYONE gets held

^This^. How many sacks would D. Ware, Suggs, J. Allen, Mario Williams, and countless others have if they weren't held all the time? One thing I've noticed that Rak is starting to do is too much whining to the refs. He has to learn how to use his arms to keep the o-lineman from easily grabbing him. Rak just runs right into their bodies most times. Elite pass rushers don't whine or look for bailouts, they just get better to get it done.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by LavaRnChad

^This^. How many sacks would D. Ware, Suggs, J. Allen, Mario Williams, and countless others have if they weren't held all the time? One thing I've noticed that Rak is starting to do is too much whining to the refs. He has to learn how to use his arms to keep the o-lineman from easily grabbing him. Rak just runs right into their bodies most times. Elite pass rushers don't whine or look for bailouts, they just get better to get it done.

You go to bed alone most nights don't you?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by LavaRnChad

^This^. How many sacks would D. Ware, Suggs, J. Allen, Mario Williams, and countless others have if they weren't held all the time? One thing I've noticed that Rak is starting to do is too much whining to the refs. He has to learn how to use his arms to keep the o-lineman from easily grabbing him. Rak just runs right into their bodies most times. Elite pass rushers don't whine or look for bailouts, they just get better to get it done.

Maybe I'm taking crazy pills but I haven't seen him whine one time...