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Old 09-09-2009, 04:42 PM   #1
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Sleeper: Redskins WR Corps

The more and more I thnk about our WR the most enthused I am. At first I was thinking that this positon was going to be weak again this year. But now as I look at the games over and over on DVR. I think we are on the verge of a very special receiving corps.

We have it all.

1. Blazing speed (Thomas & Moss)
2. Height (Mitchell, Kelly & Thomas)
3. We have elusiveness (Moss, Thomas, ARE)
4. We have experience (Moss & ARE)
5. We have good hands (Mitchell & Kelly)
6. Redzone threats (Mitchell & Kelly)
7. Trickery (ARE & Thomas) pass option and reverse - trick plays
8. Hunger (Mitchell, Thomas, Kelly)

* Mitchell and Kelly are not slow by any means either.

I think our WRs may turn out to be a lot better than expected "if" they stay on the same page with Jason Campbell.

I think Philly has a dangerous WR corps. Please chime in and write in your match ups and compare them to our depth chart at WR.
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:28 PM   #2
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Re: Sleeper: Redskins WR corp

I'm also enthused. I'm a bit disappointed to hear that Devin Thomas has lacked focus at times during the preseason, but it's a huge deal that Zorn was comfortable enough with Kelly's improvement to announce him as the starting #2. That moves Randle-El into the slot where he belongs, where he's actually a matchup problem for defenses.

With Kelly, the fade route becomes a major threat in the red zone, meaning DBs have another part of the field they have to worry about. And the slant becomes a major threat on those 3rd and 6s, because Kelly can use that big frame to shield the ball from defenders.

The weakness for Kelly will be in route-running. I hope he's precise enough that Campbell can trust him fully. But overall I'm encouraged.

As a #4 WR, there's little pressure on Devin Thomas. He has the talent to make big plays, hopefully he can add a long bomb TD here and there throughout the season. Anything Marko adds is gravy.

That big target on the outside in Kelly is very intriguing. If he does well, I can see Campbell passing for 3800 yards and 22+ TDs. Key to all of that is the pass protection. That needs to hold. But I no longer expect WR to be a trouble spot for us. It's all on the line in my mind now.
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:08 PM   #3
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I'm also enthused. I'm a bit disappointed to hear that Devin Thomas has lacked focus at times during the preseason, but it's a huge deal that Zorn was comfortable enough with Kelly's improvement to announce him as the starting #2. That moves Randle-El into the slot where he belongs, where he's actually a matchup problem for defenses.

With Kelly, the fade route becomes a major threat in the red zone, meaning DBs have another part of the field they have to worry about. And the slant becomes a major threat on those 3rd and 6s, because Kelly can use that big frame to shield the ball from defenders.

The weakness for Kelly will be in route-running. I hope he's precise enough that Campbell can trust him fully. But overall I'm encouraged.

As a #4 WR, there's little pressure on Devin Thomas. He has the talent to make big plays, hopefully he can add a long bomb TD here and there throughout the season. Anything Marko adds is gravy.

That big target on the outside in Kelly is very intriguing. If he does well, I can see Campbell passing for 3800 yards and 22+ TDs. Key to all of that is the pass protection. That needs to hold. But I no longer expect WR to be a trouble spot for us. It's all on the line in my mind now.
I can't wait until Sunday. I think we will be much improved. I definitely see us scoring more points. All of our receivers are capable of making plays. Plus Cooley & Davis. "IF" this offensive line holds up our O could be dangerous. I definitely see 20+ TDs from Campbell. I would even go as high as 4000 yards passing max. As a result. I see Portis getting like 1500+ yards. If everything clicks and JC gets in a rhythm. Skies the limit. But these are "IFs". Sunday can't come fast enough.
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:48 PM   #4
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The more and more I thnk about our WR the most enthused I am. At first I was thinking that this positon was going to be weak again this year. But now as I look at the games over and over on DVR. I think we are on the verge of a very special receiving corp.

We have it all.

1. Blazing speed (Thomas & Moss)
2. Height (Mitchell, Kelly & Thomas)
3. We have elusiveness (Moss, Thomas, ARE)
4. We have experience (Moss & ARE)
5. We have good hands (Mitchell & Kelly)
6. Redzone threats (Mitchell & Kelly)
7. Trickery (ARE & Thomas) pass option and reverse - trick plays
8. Hunger (Mitchell, Thomas, Kelly)

* Mitchell and Kelly are not slow by any means either.

I think our WRs may turn out to be a lot better than expected "if" they stay on the same page with Jason Campbell.

I think Philly has a dangerous WR corp. Please chime in and write in your match ups and compare them to our depth chart at WR.
It's fine to analyze but now it's game time so the talk is finally over with.
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:57 PM   #5
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I definitely feel like Campbell could break the passing yards record or the TD record this season.
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:28 PM   #6
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Re: Sleeper: Redskins WR corp

Our WR corp might look good, but don't you think we should wait until maybe midseason or later to determine if we have good WR corp?

Sure, Kelly looks like he's going to be great WR but once again, it all depends on his knees.. Thomas, he obviously has the talents but "lack of focus" appears to be the problem, which was something he should have fixed a while ago.. During the off season, it looked like he finally got but then until the preseason, he fell behind Kelly.. This does not sound good, at all.. But once again, I will wait until later late in the season to determine..

However Mitchell might be different story; he looks like he's going to be a gem, if he continues to flourish then you can talk about him all you want..
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:46 PM   #7
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Our WR corp might look good, but don't you think we should wait until maybe midseason or later to determine if we have good WR corp?

Sure, Kelly looks like he's going to be great WR but once again, it all depends on his knees.. Thomas, he obviously has the talents but "lack of focus" appears to be the problem, which was something he should have fixed a while ago.. During the off season, it looked like he finally got but then until the preseason, he fell behind Kelly.. This does not sound good, at all.. But once again, I will wait until later late in the season to determine..

However Mitchell might be different story; he looks like he's going to be a gem, if he continues to flourish then you can talk about him all you want..

Gotta admit though we do look good on paper. If only paper could play. Sunday is the beginning of seventeen grueling weeks that will tell us all we need to know. I'll wait for mid-season form.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:25 AM   #8
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Gotta admit though we do look good on paper. If only paper could play. Sunday is the beginning of seventeen grueling weeks that will tell us all we need to know. I'll wait for mid-season form.

That is why I am a skeptic til I see results on the field anymore. I forget the thread I posted on last night, but I said we have looked like the superior team against most of our divisional rivals or at least we were evenly gunned with them only to be on the losing end of the stick at the final gun for the past several seasons. We should have at least had 2-3 seasons of sweeping the Boys and Gmen since Gibbs came back, just going by our roster. I think it is great we might have actually assembled a great WR Corp that will be a big threat, but we can't forget our aged O line. Also I still am concerned with our secondary and the depth there. Actually depth all around might be a problem. I am very excited about the Giants game. If we beat them convincingly, it will set the tone for the whole season. IF we lose it won't mean much, but it might bring us back to earth a bit with regards to our expectations. Thing is with this revolving carousel of new coaches/players in the Snyder era, the fans have had many reasons to be excited, only to witness mediocrity in the end.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:48 AM   #9
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Re: Sleeper: Redskins WR Corps

I think if we can be consistent and make some plays on offense we can go as far as winning the NFC East. I say this because of some problems I see in other teams beside ours. Two major factors that made the NFC Beast so intriguing was the fact that we had two major WR superstars. T.O. and Plax. Now they are gone. Who are the big play receivers left in our division?

Redskins: Moss (hopefully the younger WRs step up).

Cowboys: Williams has yet to prove himself and he is not a rookie anymore by far.

Philly: Fraction Jackson is only in his second year and Macklin might develop into a decent receiver along with Kevin Curtis.

Giants: Nicks May be the answer for Plax. But that's a tall order to fill. Literally.

IF just two of these players make some plays this year we will be fine.

Thomas, Kelly, Mitchell, Fred Davis

We will easily be ranked high in the NFC East.

Dallas has a running game. But receiving corp is suspect. Defense is solid but soft in the secondary.

Giants have a running game. But receiving corp is suspect. Defense is solid but soft in the secondary.

Philly has versatile backs and speedy receivers. If Vick is utilized appropriately they will be extremely dynamic on offense. Espeically if Macklin comes to play this year. Defense. Suspect. Brian Dawkins/JJ gone.

Skins have a running game. Receiving corps is upgraded. Outsiders may say its suspect. Defense is solid LB experiments will have to be factored in as well as O-Line play on offense.

I think our QB/WR play could be the difference between us being 3-4 or 1-2 in our division.
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Our WR corp might look good, but don't you think we should wait until maybe midseason or later to determine if we have good WR corp?

Sure, Kelly looks like he's going to be great WR but once again, it all depends on his knees.. Thomas, he obviously has the talents but "lack of focus" appears to be the problem, which was something he should have fixed a while ago.. During the off season, it looked like he finally got but then until the preseason, he fell behind Kelly.. This does not sound good, at all.. But once again, I will wait until later late in the season to determine..

However Mitchell might be different story; he looks like he's going to be a gem, if he continues to flourish then you can talk about him all you want..
Man I wish people would let that go. He's been thru the toughest part of what his knee will have to endure on a weekly basis, two a days. Unless he suffers a knee INJURY, which you can't prevent, quit bringing it up every time his name is part of a discussion. [/rant]

Back to the OT, I've felt since OTA's that we've got the best receiving group in the division. Mitchell only added to that. I truly hope Zorn becomes Andy Reid 2.0 by using the pass to set up the run. If that's the case, that takes pressure off of the OL by not putting them in obvious passing or predictable running situations.
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Man I wish people would let that go. He's been thru the toughest part of what his knee will have to endure on a weekly basis, two a days. Unless he suffers a knee INJURY, which you can't prevent, quit bringing it up every time his name is part of a discussion. [/rant]

Back to the OT, I've felt since OTA's that we've got the best receiving group in the division. Mitchell only added to that. I truly hope Zorn becomes Andy Reid 2.0 by using the pass to set up the run. If that's the case, that takes pressure off of the OL by not putting them in obvious passing or predictable running situations.
I agree Pain. Passing will keep the "D" from crowding the line and that will only help the run to be even better. It's how the WCO works. It's looks like we finally have what it takes to get this offense off the ground.
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"I truly hope Zorn becomes Andy Reid 2.0 . . ."

I'm having a hard time figuring out what to say here . . .

NO. BAD. WRONG.

Crap happens and the Skins are down by six points with 1:43 left in the fourth. Do you really want "Andy Reid 2.0" calling the shots?

This is a website for people who are rooting FOR the Redskins, right?

UPDATE: I fully understand the intent behind your original post . . . setting up the run by using the pass . . . but surely you can understand the sheer amount of "WTF?" generated by the phrase "truly hope Zorn becomes Andy Reid 2.0"
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Our WR corps has been so pathetic the last few years Marko Mitchell alone makes us better and gives me hope. The fact that MK has made enough progress that Zorn has made him #2 and JC is constantly singing his praises is the best news I've heard on the offensive side of the ball in years. To say I'm optimistic would be a huge understatement.
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Our WR corps has been so pathetic the last few years Marko Mitchell alone makes us better and gives me hope. The fact that MK has made enough progress that Zorn has made him #2 and JC is constantly singing his praises is the best news I've heard on the offensive side of the ball in years. To say I'm optimistic would be a huge understatement.
I agree Mitchell will end up being our "Colston", but as far as Thomas is concerned, IDK if he's going to be effective for us. I just don't trust Big 10 WR'S. Overall we will score more points as a team just because we have more talent this yr!!! I can't wait for sunday
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Our WR corps has been so pathetic the last few years Marko Mitchell alone makes us better and gives me hope. The fact that MK has made enough progress that Zorn has made him #2 and JC is constantly singing his praises is the best news I've heard on the offensive side of the ball in years. To say I'm optimistic would be a huge understatement.
What are you talking about? We had the great Taylor Jacobs!
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