Zorn Makes Great Progress with New Offense Geared To Campbells Talents

[T.O.Killa]

I am so glad that Zorn has tailored the offense to Campbell's talents. I thought that Joe Gibbs made a huge mistake hiring Saunders, because Campbell's talents were best suited to Joe Gibbs vertical style of offense. He is a deep ball passer like Mark Rypien. The west coast offense was never suited to his talents. I think that if they go with this down field vertical passing game there is hope for Campbell staying in Washington and taking us to the promise land. With the emergence of Mitchell, Kelly and Thomas, along with Moss, we should be a big play powerhouse.

[NYCskinfan82]

I think Campbell know's the offense better has lots of weapons and wants to be a Redskin.

[12thMan]

I think there's a difference between tailoring his offense and taking more shots downfield. Besides we won't know how much he's done either way until the regular starts. I suspect that Zorn is still married to the WCO. Some new wrinkles maybe, but I think fundamentally we'll see the same offense we saw last year.

That being said, Clinton Portis will continue to be the centerpiece of this offense. If Portis doesn't log somewhere between 1,300 and 1,500 yards this season, I'm not sure how successful Zorn will be or how far the Skins go. Yes, the emergence of Kelly, Thomas, and Mitchell will help, but this is still CP's offense as far as I'm concerned.

[diehard]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think there's a difference between tailoring his offense and taking more shots downfield. Besides we won't know how much he's done either way until the regular starts. I suspect that Zorn is still married to the WCO. Some new wrinkles maybe, but I think fundamentally we'll see the same offense we saw last year.

That being said, Clinton Portis will continue to be the centerpiece of this offense. If Portis doesn't log somewhere between 1,300 and 1,500 yards this season, I'm not sure how successful Zorn will be or how far the Skins go. Yes, the emergence of Kelly, Thomas, and Mitchell will help, but this is still CP's offense as far as I'm concerned.

Every team and every offense needs their RB(s) to run for 1300-1500 yards...

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by diehard

Every team and every offense needs their RB(s) to run for 1300-1500 yards...

Not really. Last year you had a total of five running backs go over 1,300 yards. The vast majority didn't even break a 1,000 yards. The two teams that played in the Super Bowl didn't have one guy go over 800 yards.

Obviously the Redskins are put together much differently than those teams I just mentioned, but the point is we lived or died with Portis last year. And while I think we've improved some this time around, I don't see a big departure in the number of carries Portis will get.

[Coff]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Obviously the Redskins are put together much differently than those teams I just mentioned, but the point is we lived or died with Portis last year. .

I don't know if we lived or died with Portis last year. His rushing yards may have been more of a reflection of the offense's capabilities rather than the backbone upon which is all rested. In other words, we need to be careful between recognizing a correlation and identifying a cause and effect. Arguably, the offense didn't fail in the second half last year because Portis couldn't get going, but rather Portis couldn't get going because the line couldn't protect the passing game and opposing defenses simply stacked the box as a result.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Coff

I don't know if we lived or died with Portis last year. His rushing yards may have been more of a reflection of the offense's capabilities rather than the backbone upon which is all rested. In other words, we need to be careful between recognizing a correlation and identifying a cause and effect. Arguably, the offense didn't fail in the second half last year because Portis couldn't get going, but rather Portis couldn't get going because the line couldn't protect the passing game and opposing defenses simply stacked the box as a result.

I'll buy that too. The larger point I'm making is if Portis rushes for 800 yards last year, we're not even 8-8.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Not really. Last year you had a total of five running backs go over 1,300 yards. The vast majority didn't even break a 1,000 yards. The two teams that played in the Super Bowl didn't have one guy go over 800 yards.

Obviously the Redskins are put together much differently than those teams I just mentioned, but the point is we lived or died with Portis last year. And while I think we've improved some this time around, I don't see a big departure in the number of carries Portis will get.

Goes to show the formula for winning a Super Bowl doesn't include having a great feature back, especially one who's the higest paid player on Offense. The Steelers were getting 100 yard games from their 3rd stringer last year, Melwelde Moore. And look at who the Pats had in their backfield when they won their Super Bowls. I think the Skins would be more successful if Portis got less yards, assuming they had 1 or 2 other RBs contributing.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Goes to show the formula for winning a Super Bowl doesn't include having a great feature back, especially one who's the higest paid player on Offense. The Steelers were getting 100 yard games from their 3rd stringer last year, Melwelde Moore. And look at who the Pats had in their backfield when they won their Super Bowls. I think the Skins would be more successful if Portis got less yards, assuming they had 1 or 2 other RBs contributing.

Exactly. You bring up a good point. That's why I said we lived or died with Portis last year. Not just because of his own production, but because the workload wasn't distributed amongst the other running backs.

[RiggoRanger]

I'm still waiting to see this deep ball that JC is supposed to be so good at throwing. He's been 1/4 in the preseason, and he was routinely missing receivers all of last year and the year before.

I'm glad that Zorn will open things up more for JC, but I'll be happier to see JC not over or under throwing wide-open receivers.

[Jay Schroeder]

Originally Posted by diehard

Every team and every offense needs their RB(s) to run for 1300-1500 yards...

except for Arizona last year

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Jay Schroeder

except for Arizona last year

.....and Pittsburgh and about 20 something other teams.

[Bucket]

They have to compliment each other in my opinion. if Portis doesn't excel, then the offense wont. Although, if Cambell can't throw against 3-4 man coverages then the running game is snuffed.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Cambell shows up in September. Preseason game 1/2 Cambell, or preseason game 3/4 Cambell.

[SmootSmack]

D.C. Sports Bog - Jason Campbell Really Likes Big Plays

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

D.C. Sports Bog - Jason Campbell Really Likes Big Plays

Interesting what Vinny had to say about Mason and Alridge. I've been calling for shots down the field since last year. I think we have the time and personell to make something of it now. Being in the second year and getting our basics down helps us to expand the "O". Looking forward to spreading the field this season.