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Old 03-07-2004, 10:51 PM   #1
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Should we be concerned about the defensive line?

At this point in free agency I thought we would have upgraded our defensive line a bit more, at least from a pass rushing perspective.

Griffin is known as a run stuffer at DT so he's not likely to add much in way of pressure.

Daniels doesn't seem much of a threat to log more than 5 or 6 sacks at best, and we have holdovers like Wynn and Upshaw who haven't exactly torn up the NFL with their pass rushing skills.

I'm sensing that with the addition of Washington at strong side LB and by sliding Arrington over the the weak side that Williams will be aggressive with the LB's to compensate for the lack of a strong pass rushing threat from the DE spots.

Does this scare anyone just a bit? We went into last season with the same idea and we all know how that ended up.

I know that the difference maker here could be Williams and his schemes. But still, a part of me is a little concerned.
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Old 03-07-2004, 10:58 PM   #2
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I think having Williams as the DC will help, but I'm still concerned. I've been all for the team drafting Taylor, but now I'm beginning to think they should maybe trade down a few spots (pick up additional picks) and take Udeze, Smith or Harris.
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Old 03-07-2004, 11:04 PM   #3
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If we get Udeze, Harris or Wilfork in the draft I'm a lot less concerned. Yes I thought we'd be adding more than just Griffin and Daniels on the DL. I don't think Gibbs and Snyder are done yet. If they don't address the DL in the draft, I bet they'll find someone among the June 1 cap cuts. I think Williams' system will compensate for any weaknesses in personnel... supposedly that's his big talent, molding defenses to fit the people. From reading his interview on the redskins.com site, it sounds like he's going to blitz Lavar and Marcus Washington a lot. But I'd like to see the Skins get another pass-rushing DE and one more big body at DT. I hope they can make that happen somehow.
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Old 03-07-2004, 11:08 PM   #4
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If we get just one good dlinemen in the draft, Udeze, Harris , Wilfork, I will be alot less worried. Preferably Udeze. Any word on W. Smith from Ohio St. At first he seemed like our guy, is there a chance he can fall to the second round, pending we trade down and get a pick there?
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Old 03-07-2004, 11:21 PM   #5
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I would love to get Taylor, but the more pressing need appears at our line, so I agree with trading down. Hopefully, one of these linemen will make an immediate impact
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Old 03-07-2004, 11:41 PM   #6
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I wouldn't be suprised to see the FO wait and see if a soft market develops for Marcellus Wiley and they can come in and get him for cheap..
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Old 03-08-2004, 12:01 AM   #7
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Just wondering, is Peppi Zellner part of the Redskins future plans? And where is LaDiarias Jackson these days?
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Old 03-08-2004, 12:16 AM   #8
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This was excactly my point earlier about why i was disappointed in the offseason. I don't think we have really upgraded our d-line. We might have to draft a d-linemen with our 5th pick now, but that would mean we pass on tayler. Its gonna be a tuff choice.
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Old 03-08-2004, 12:23 AM   #9
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I'm not really worried about the D-line. The personnel are already improved over last year. I'm 95% sure we will go defense with our first pick... and whoever that is (Taylor, Harris, Udeze...) will help our pass rush. Most importantly... we have a new top-of-the-line D-coordinator with a history of building great defenses. We're going to be fine.
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Old 03-08-2004, 07:58 AM   #10
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I wouldn't worry about McCants. Gibbs always had 3 good WR's and at least one of them was a possession type (Monk = McCants), a middle ground guy who wasn't a blazer (Clark = Gardner?) and a speed demon to stretch the D (Sander = Coles).

The O is in good shape now, so lets concentrate on D. I belive if we sign a good (if not great) DE now, then they will keep the #5 and draft Taylor. If they can't get a DE through FA, expect a trade down to get Udeze and a couple of picks for backups. Our CB's look good, so Safety may actually be the one real need left, although I have a degree of faith in the guys we already have.

Remember last year it wasn't pass rush that let us down, it was the ability to stuff the run. I think the new guys give us that ability and adding Washington improves the pass rush too. One more good end to take the pressure off Wynn, would mean the only worry is safety.
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Old 03-08-2004, 08:41 AM   #11
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DE or not to DE!

From these FA moves, it appears HOF Coach Gibbs has bought into the LDS/cousinvinnie school of thought on the Draft.

Who cares about the draft? We do!
The "twins" from the FO do not when it comes to filling needs.
The Draft only hints at needs. FA fills them immediately. HOF Coach has done something that everyone thought he could not do. Master Free Agency! The one area concerning players and managers all the experts said he didn't have during his first go-around!
Next, is mini-camp, our 1 1/2 hour Draft, and more FA in June! HOF Coach Gibbs and his experienced coaching staff knows what they are doing, and can get started quicker having filled needs.

The Draft always addresses "Best Available" as opposed to needs!
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I don't know who all has looked at it but in the thread posted by Ghost about the mock draft by foxsports in which we draft Mike Williams, they guess that Taylor will slip to #7 because he had a terrible workout in which he ran a slow time and looked out of shape. Now if this is true, especially about him appearing at his own workout out of shape, do we really want him? Shouldn't this bring into question his discipline and desire? I know I'm not as sure about drafting him after reading this. I think the best play would be to draft down, pick up udeze, pick up jake grove, and add young depth to the d-line. after the cuts of moore, dung, and anyone else who doesn't live up to their paycheck, the skins will have enough cap space to sign the picks and maybe pick up a couple cheap veterans after the june 1st cut date.
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I meant trade down^
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