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Old 07-10-2009, 03:55 PM   #1
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Permanent diet may equal longer life

Kind of one of those 'no duh' type of deals, but the results of this study are still pretty interesting. Keep in mind the monkey on the right was on a "normal" diet vs. the monkey on the left with a reduced calorie diet.

Permanent diet may equal longer life - Los Angeles Times
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:58 PM   #2
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Now the tuff part will be going out into the woods and making the monkey's stick to that diet.
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:10 PM   #3
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Damn! Monkey on the right got a raw deal.
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Old 07-10-2009, 04:15 PM   #4
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I guess that means my lunch at Olive Garden wasn't a good idea
-- it tasted good though, so I guess I'm not gonna bite anyone today.
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When UCLA evolutionary biologist Jay Phelan put mice on caloric restriction, he got the distinct impression that they didn't appreciate it.

"They bit people and were more agitated," he said. In contrast, the mice who ate a normal diet "would just sit around and let you pick them up."
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I guess that means my lunch at Olive Garden wasn't a good idea
-- it tasted good though, so I guess I'm not gonna bite anyone today.
So the fat ones are happier. So I guess a study should be done of which is more important, to be happy, or to have fewer medical issues? LOL.
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So the fat ones are happier. So I guess a study should be done of which is more important, to be happy, or to have fewer medical issues? LOL.
Not quite, I don't think anyone who has heart problems and is restricted to a life of no sex is happy.

It's a matter of overindulgence now and depression & illness later vs moderation now and moderation later.
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Not quite, I don't think anyone who has heart problems and is restricted to a life of no sex is happy.
Interesting you would point that out. Not a lot of people with heart issues have to have a life of no sex unless they are close to death with immediate issues. People with prostate issues have that problem and there is no link to poor eating and prostate cancer.

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It's a matter of overindulgence now and depression & illness later vs moderation now and moderation later.
I was posing the question...if the fat ones are happier, is moderation now worth it?
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Interesting you would point that out. Not a lot of people with heart issues have to have a life of no sex unless they are close to death with immediate issues. People with prostate issues have that problem and there is no link to poor eating and prostate cancer.
Hmmm. How does one say "that's not remotely accurate" without coming across as being a dick? I guess you just say it.

That's not remotely accurate (lest you forget you're speaking to someone in the healthcare business).

Anyone with congestive heart failure, severe murmurs, valve problems, or COPD would be restricted in terms of physical activity, including sex. That encompasses a lot of people who are nowhere near death.
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food makes people happy so does beer but now i am going to lock myself away from good food and live on cheerios
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Just for the record, I feel like eating what you want makes you happier, however, exercising makes you happy and healthy too, and you should be more concered about exercising than dieting. Just my opinion though.
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Just for the record, I feel like eating what you want makes you happier, however, exercising makes you happy and healthy too, and you should be more concered about exercising than dieting. Just my opinion though.
I agree for the most part. I don't smoke, and I'm in the gym for about an hour and a half 6 days a week, doing both cardio and a pretty intensive weight training routine . I also do a full body stretch before I workout and right before I go to bed (which works wonders for falling asleep quickly). Working out as often as possible is not only good for physical health, but all that oxygen in your blood makes you mentally sharper. The best few hours of my day are the ones right after I workout. I feel like a million bucks, and mentally I'm sharp as a tack. I know this may sound stupid or arrogant, but I'm proud of the way I look with my shirt off, and that's great for self confidence (not that I walk around shirtless for fun, but you get what I mean). A regular exercise routine should be mandatory for everyone who is physically capable. You will look and feel so much better, and obviously it will extend your life.

As far as diet, because of how much I exercise, I can cheat a lot more than most people and not really see an adverse affect. Plus all the exercise speeds up metabolism. I don't have much of a sweet tooth, so things like candy, donuts, etc are never an issue. I have a weakness for cheeseburgers/steaks, however I limit myself to one meal of red meat per week. I also love eggs, so I eat them a few times a week, but only the whites, no yolks. I don't drink much beer anymore- mostly red wine and single malt scotch, so not too many calories there.

I guess my point is to just be mindful. I'm not on a diet, but I make sensible choices. Everyone knows what's good to eat and what's not. Substitute some steamed veggies for those fries most of the time. Have some black coffee for a pick-me-up instead of coke, pepsi, or red bull. Eat some fish a few times a week. Stuff like that. Also, throughout the day it's better to eat less more than more less - like 4 or 5 small meals instead of 2 big meals. Doing so also keeps blood-sugar and energy levels stable, and curbs your appetite to the point where you'll have less of an urge to mow down that massive high calorie meal.

I would say I'm more a gym rat than a health nut, and I'm not trying to preach. IMO it's about moderation and being mindful with food, and frequent exercise.
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I agree for the most part. I don't smoke, and I'm in the gym for about an hour and a half 6 days a week, doing both cardio and a pretty intensive weight training routine . I also do a full body stretch before I workout and right before I go to bed (which works wonders for falling asleep quickly). Working out as often as possible is not only good for physical health, but all that oxygen in your blood makes you mentally sharper. The best few hours of my day are the ones right after I workout. I feel like a million bucks, and mentally I'm sharp as a tack. I know this may sound stupid or arrogant, but I'm proud of the way I look with my shirt off, and that's great for self confidence (not that I walk around shirtless for fun, but you get what I mean). A regular exercise routine should be mandatory for everyone who is physically capable. You will look and feel so much better, and obviously it will extend your life.

As far as diet, because of how much I exercise, I can cheat a lot more than most people and not really see an adverse affect. Plus all the exercise speeds up metabolism. I don't have much of a sweet tooth, so things like candy, donuts, etc are never an issue. I have a weakness for cheeseburgers/steaks, however I limit myself to one meal of red meat per week. I also love eggs, so I eat them a few times a week, but only the whites, no yolks. I don't drink much beer anymore- mostly red wine and single malt scotch, so not too many calories there.

I guess my point is to just be mindful. I'm not on a diet, but I make sensible choices. Everyone knows what's good to eat and what's not. Substitute some steamed veggies for those fries most of the time. Have some black coffee for a pick-me-up instead of coke, pepsi, or red bull. Eat some fish a few times a week. Stuff like that. Also, throughout the day it's better to eat less more than more less - like 4 or 5 small meals instead of 2 big meals. Doing so also keeps blood-sugar and energy levels stable, and curbs your appetite to the point where you'll have less of an urge to mow down that massive high calorie meal.

I would say I'm more a gym rat than a health nut, and I'm not trying to preach. IMO it's about moderation and being mindful with food, and frequent exercise.
Do you grunt when you workout, so everyone can see how jacked and tan you are?
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Do you grunt when you workout, so everyone can see how jacked and tan you are?
LOL. Actually I usually workout alone, and I'm my own little world with my I-pod. The majority of members at the health club I belong to in Bethesda are either 40+ working professionals, 60+ retirees, and high school kids. So no, I don't grunt or throw weights around. My demographic (30 year old, not married, no kids) is in the minority there. It's far from a meat head gym.

I've got a question for folks out there that hasn't been discussed in this thread - What kind of supplements are you taking? By supplements, I mean vitamins, omega-3's, protein, etc etc.

I'm currently taking GNC Mega Men Sport (time release), and omega 3 fish oils. If I leave the house and forget to take them, I can definitely tell throughout the day. After a workout, if I can't have a meal of some sort within 30 minutes or so, I try to have a protein bar or shake. I also have one scoop of Green Vibrance every day.
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LOL. Actually I usually workout alone, and I'm my own little world with my I-pod. The majority of members at the health club I belong to in Bethesda are either 40+ working professionals, 60+ retirees, and high school kids. So no, I don't grunt or throw weights around. My demographic (30 year old, not married, no kids) is in the minority there. It's far from a meat head gym.

I've got a question for folks out there that hasn't been discussed in this thread - What kind of supplements are you taking? By supplements, I mean vitamins, omega-3's, protein, etc etc.

I'm currently taking GNC Mega Men Sport (time release), and omega 3 fish oils. If I leave the house and forget to take them, I can definitely tell throughout the day. After a workout, if I can't have a meal of some sort within 30 minutes or so, I try to have a protein bar or shake. I also have one scoop of Green Vibrance every day.
I just take a multi-vitamin. I was taking fish oil for a while too and just kinda stopped. Couldn't seem to avoid the "fish burps". I took them after eating with a full glass of water and would still get them. Gross.

I should probably look into other supplements but I'm just not sure of where to start.
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LOL...maybe the most superfluous study ever. Eat less, live healthier, live longer...who'd of thunk it!
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