Chris Cooley Endorses Vinny Cerrato

[44ever]

Chris Cooley Endorses Vinny Cerrato - D.C. Sports Bog

[gaudiomatt]

That wasn't a huge defense for a GM when he's saying we have so little depth along our oline Todd Yoder was about to start at G. So Chris Cooley might not be your typical nfl player trying to make headlines by bringing private matters into public but I didn't really see much of a defense there. He's done some good things obviously but he's overall a bad GM. He can recognize some talent he should be a personel guy at best though having him be our GM is stupid.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by gaudiomatt

That wasn't a huge defense for a GM when he's saying we have so little depth along our oline Todd Yoder was about to start at G. So Chris Cooley might not be your typical nfl player trying to make headlines by bringing private matters into public but I didn't really see much of a defense there. He's done some good things obviously but he's overall a bad GM. He can recognize some talent he should be a personel guy at best though having him be our GM is stupid.

I disagree 100%. Unless the pick is blatantly obvious (Sean Taylor at #5), then Cerrato is clueless.

I blame all of our free agency forays on Snyder and Snyder/Gibbs.

I truly believe that Cerrato is a draft guy. I really do. BUT, Cerrato has three main problems, IMO.

1. Cerrato cut his teeth with the Niners in the pre salary cap era, so he learned about the draft when picking the best available player was the best philosophy. He has not adjusted, at all, to the salary cap era drafting, which necessitates a needs based approach. You can't stock up on three receivers in a round when you have such glaring deficiencies with depth across both lines.

2. He is a horrible talent evaluator and often picks players for us much higher than they would ordinarily go in the draft. Look at the rookie WR's who made immediate impacts with their teams that were drafted after Devin Thomas.

3. To a lesser extent than #2, players are not chosen with respect to the system in which the coach coaches. A contributing factor to this is our myriad of coaching changes and therefore philosophies and how players become expendable under new coaches (Stephen Davis).

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Yeah, i remember talking about this a few weeks ago. Not really surprising. Cooley was drafted by Cerrato and Cerrato just negotiated an extension with him last year - I wouldnt expect Cooley to say anything else. I really doubt that any redskins player who is not on the verge of retiring/leaving the team, or who is not disgruntled, would ever say anything negative about anyone in the front office or coaching staff. to do so would be stoopid.

[44ever]

I think what Cooley is trying to say is, it's not that VC isn't bringing in the talent so much as the talent isn't bringing in the W's. Sounds like hes pointing the hidden hand at the coaching. Smoot on the other hand was stating the obvious. Just don't tell that to Ed Reed

[Defensewins]

What do expect him to say?
Snyder and Cerratto are still his boss and they sign his pay checks. I think he eludes to that when he says, "I'm here because Vinny was here. Vinny picked me...." Do you think any player on the Redskins will say yes Vinny is terrible?

While true about lack of a pass rush, I did not like that Smoot (specifically) said that about our DL. He said, "That's where games are won at. It's rarely won at the back end, it's always won in the trenches. For the most part, the guys did a good job, but you know if you're gonna look into the numbers, Pittsburgh had 50-odd sacks and all that stuff."
WTF? Does he own a mirror? Smoot's poor level of play does not give him the right to point fingers at other under performing team mates .
The only reason he is not getting cut this year as opposed next year, he will definitly get cut next year, is it is too cap probative to cut him this year. He and Jansen are in the same boat. Smoot is the weak link and a liability in the secondary. Smoot needs to keep his mouth shut.

[SkinzzFan]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

What do expect him to say?
Snyder and Cerratto are still his boss and they sign his pay checks. I think he eludes to that when he says, "I'm here because Vinny was here. Vinny picked me...." Do you think any player on the Redskins will say yes Vinny is terrible?

While true about lack of a pass rush, I did not like that Smoot (specifically) said that about our DL. He said, "That's where games are won at. It's rarely won at the back end, it's always won in the trenches. For the most part, the guys did a good job, but you know if you're gonna look into the numbers, Pittsburgh had 50-odd sacks and all that stuff."
WTF? Does he own a mirror? Smoot's poor level of play does not give him the right to point fingers at other under performing team mates .
The only reason he is not getting cut this year as opposed next year, he will definitly get cut next year, is it is too cap probative to cut him this year. He and Jansen are in the same boat. Smoot is the weak link and a liability in the secondary. Smoot needs to keep his mouth shut.

I thought Springs was the one who said that?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Its obvious this team lacks talent. Overall, we have one one the least talented rosters in the NFL.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Its obvious this team lacks talent. Overall, we have one one the least talented rosters in the NFL.

Well there are 11 teams that did worst than we did along with four other teams that did as well as we did. So I wouldn't call us the least talented roster in the NFL. When we got 0-16 or somewhere close to that, then you can make that claim.

Washington ------8-8
San Diego--------8-8
New Orleans------8-8
Houston----------8-8
Denver-----------8-8
Buffalo--------7-9
San Francisco----7-9
Green Bay--------6-10
Jacksonville------5-11
Oakland----------5-11
Cleveland--------4-12
Cincinnati--------4-11-1
Seattle----------4-12
Kansas City------2-14
St. Louis---------2-14
Detroit-----------0-16

[RedskinMike]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well there are 11 teams that did worst than we did along with four other teams that did as well as we did. So I wouldn't call us the least talented roster in the NFL. When we got 0-16 or somewhere close to that, then you can make that claim.

Washington ------8-8
San Diego--------8-8
New Orleans------8-8
Houston----------8-8
Denver-----------8-8
Buffalo--------7-9
San Francisco----7-9
Green Bay--------6-10
Jacksonville------5-11
Oakland----------5-11
Cleveland--------4-12
Cincinnati--------4-11-1
Seattle----------4-12
Kansas City------2-14
St. Louis---------2-14
Detroit-----------0-16

thank you im so sick of people acting like we are the lions. we are by no means great but also not one of the "least talented rosters in the NFL" by any stretch of the imagination

[GTripp0012]

Cerrato did sort of give Cooley ten million dollars or so just a year ago. I'd probably endorse the first person to do that for me as well. Just sayin, I have a price.

[SmootSmack]

I could have sworn we talked about this in another thread just a couple of weeks ago. But anyway, is this really news?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I could have sworn we talked about this in another thread just a couple of weeks ago. But anyway, is this really news?

we did, and no its not.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

we did, and no its not.

BigHairedAristocrat, The authority of news worthyness. Apparently not everyone agrees with you. But next time I post a thread I'll run it by your desk first.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I could have sworn we talked about this in another thread just a couple of weeks ago. But anyway, is this really news?

Sorry SmootSmack I didn't realize this was already discussed. I'll go post on the more news worthy, if I changed my allegiance thread.