JLC: Rogers, Possibly on the Way Out

[Dirtbag59]

Rogers, Possibly on the Way Out - Redskins Insider

ZOMG, Vinny wants to trade Los so he can draft another receiver.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Unless we got a mid-1st round pick for him (which is a pipe dream), I'd be dead-set against any such trade. He's entering his prime, Springs is likely gone, Smoot should get his named changed to Smoked, and Tryon hasn't shown much promise yet.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Unless we got a mid-1st round pick for him (which is a pipe dream), I'd be dead-set against any such trade. He's entering his prime, Springs is likely gone, Smoot should get his named changed to Smoked, and Tryon hasn't shown much promise yet.

I'm inclined to lower my demand to an early second round pick but even that seems to be a pipe dream in and of itself with a lot of Rogers trade value hinging on guys like Nnamdi Asomugha availability as well as lesser corners like Gamble and Robinson. Still the truth is we were able to end up as a top 5 defense this year (at least I still think we're top 5) due to the fact that we had a great secondary. Theres no gurantee that trading Rogers for a draft pick will realocate the talent that he brought to the defense up to the front four and with Vinny's draft history I doubt it will.

[mitch e]

If they dont put together a good OL they wont do any better next year.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by mitch e

If they dont put together a good OL they wont do any better next year.

the past 5-8 years we've had a great O line and the results were the same: 7-9 to 9-7. this year the O line was a problem for about 8 games and all of the sudden its the O lines fault weve had a below average passing game for a decade now?

i love our O line guys, tired of seeing them made out to be a scapegoat this year when theyve been our bread and butter for years and we still had no passing game.

the problems this team has have been here for awhile, well before the O line started to age and decline.

sorry man, what you say is true just wish we could sprinkle the blame to other areas of the team too.

go skins!!

[PennSkinsFan]

Makes sense, after all, the defensive struggled this year, while the offense lit it up.

Anyway, I am not full of too much faith with Cerrato still running the front office. This is a guy that does not believe you need offense or defense lineman.

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

the past 5-8 years we've had a great O line and the results were the same: 7-9 to 9-7. this year the O line was a problem for about 8 games and all of the sudden its the O lines fault weve had a below average passing game for a decade now?

i love our O line guys, tired of seeing them made out to be a scapegoat this year when theyve been our bread and butter for years and we still had no passing game.

the problems this team has have been here for awhile, well before the O line started to age and decline.

sorry man, what you say is true just wish we could sprinkle the blame to other areas of the team too.

go skins!!

mountain, so do you think the blame is on JC??
Could it be that JG had no spine and refused to air the ball out and was working with an antiquated offense?? And you answered you're question yourself, the last 5-8 years...the unit is old!!!
Chris Samuels has been in the league 9 years, Rabach - 8, Kendall - 13, Thomas - 10, Jansen - 10
It is time to inject some youth into the offensive trenches, Clinton Portis should be running free over everyone

[birdz4gibbs]

Originally Posted by mitch e

If they dont put together a good OL they wont do any better next year.

or a DL for that matter as well..they need both....

[EternalEnigma21]

carlos is a great cb. he may not have hands but our pass D went downhill when he got demoted. retarded.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by EternalEnigma21

carlos is a great cb. he may not have hands but our pass D went downhill when he got demoted. retarded.

Exactly, I'd rather not catch interceptions than to allow touchdowns. Granted los got beat a couple times in he 2nd half of the season in his newish role, it happens to every corner.

I'd like to see Hall resigned, but I'm not sure he's the best bet in covering #1 receivers. I guess that's a great shot to get interceptions as the QB will take more risks going to #1, but if the CB also takes more risks, that could be disastrous.

Rogers is definitely our best CB. If we intend on keeping him I'd tell him early and let him know that his hands need to get better in the offseason. Of course he's entering a contract year after next, so he might not have the incentive to do it for us, and will be a free agent rather than trade bait, unless we franchised him.

[over the mountain]

seems the skins coaches decide not to talk with players before they get dropped down the depth charts. jansen's comments at the begginning of the season seem to be identical to rogers . . "no one told me or explained why. i would like to know . ." which just leads to reporters asking them about it, then the player gives the "dont know, nobodys told me, youd have to ask them" response. (players are saying this in response to a question and not seeking to take things public on their own initiative like . . cough cough .. portis . . cough couch)

im sure the skins coaches have their reasons for taking this approach so i wont second guess, just seems to really rub the players the wrong way and go against what coach zorn was talking about at the beginning of the season: the importance of being honest and upfront with players.

to bench a guy and not tell him why really doesnt bode well for a healthy relationship with a player your potentialy going to enter into contract negotiations with.

go skins!!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

seems the skins coaches decide not to talk with players before they get dropped down the depth charts. jansen's comments at the begginning of the season seem to be identical to rogers . . "no one told me or explained why. i would like to know . ." which just leads to reporters asking them about it, then the player gives the "dont know, nobodys told me, youd have to ask them" response. (players are saying this in response to a question and not seeking to take things public on their own initiative like . . cough cough .. portis . . cough couch)

im sure the skins coaches have their reasons for taking this approach so i wont second guess, just seems to really rub the players the wrong way and go against what coach zorn was talking about at the beginning of the season: the importance of being honest and upfront with players.

to bench a guy and not tell him why really doesnt bode well for a healthy relationship with a player your potentialy going to enter into contract negotiations with.

go skins!!

If they are benching players they need to meet with them first and explain why its happening and thats just good leadership.

[BrunellMVP?]

i mean, i would not take anything less than a 1st rounder maybe HIGH 2nd

he's young and talents

[redskins4lif]

I think they should bring all 4 of the corners back next year if they can and start hall and rogers and have springs rotate with horton at saftey and some corner next year if he would do that

[SkinzzFan]

Originally Posted by redskins4lif

I think they should bring all 4 of the corners back next year if they can and start hall and rogers and have springs rotate with horton at saftey and some corner next year if he would do that

I agree 100%.