There's No Quarterback Controversy

[MTK]

Good read from JLC:

Thirteen weeks into the season, there's a growing contingent of people intent on blaming everything on the quarterback and calling for a backup to play. The same people clamoring for Colt Brennan in August and September are now crying out for Todd Collins. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that we're back where we started, yet I am.

Predictably, Coach Jim Zorn spent a good deal of his press conference fielding questions about Campbell, including one from a reporter who asked if a quarterback change was in order. Zorn is tuning out the noise. He knows Campbell isn't perfect - Zorn called the passer's performance against the Giants "very average" - but the problems run much deeper than the one position that draws the most attention (judging by talk radio and my inbox today).


link: There's No Quarterback Controversy - Redskins Insider

[BrunellMVP?]

There is no need to be calling for Jason's job...
are there thing he could be doing better- Yes. Is our offense woefully inept right now? Yes. Is it jason fault? No. He needs time to both adjust (to the new system), and throw (in the pocket)...so far he's had little of either....

[Hog1]

but....but.........

[charlielyons]

Im not buying the whole Campbell needs to adjust thing. Brett Favre is flourishing in his new system, so is Matt Ryan, Chad Pennington.....Plenty of quarterback flourish in there first year......i think he may need more time, but the season is one more loss away from being a wash.....Brennann should get some playng time at least to see what hes got and gain some exp. so we are not going through this again in 2 years if Campbells not the guy

[Ruhskins]

How 'bout an offensive line controversy? or Wide Receivers controversy?

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

How 'bout an offensive line controversy? or Wide Receivers controversy?

im all for benching randle el , thrash and playing strictly the rookies and moss. cant be any worse...at least they would get some exp.

[JLW428]

Any time an offense starts bogging down the first person that gets put on the hot seat is the QB. Hilariously enough, when the offense is putting up a lot of points and the team is winning games the first person to gets put on a high throan is the QB. We have seen JC in both of these seats through out this season. Most of the people who designate the seating arrangements don't know a damn thing about football other than that when a team loses the QB is horrible and when the team wins the QB is god.

I personally find it quite funny, and I laugh when I talk football with people like this...then I walk away shaking my head.

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by JLW428

Any time an offense starts bogging down the first person that gets put on the hot seat is the QB. Hilariously enough, when the offense is putting up a lot of points and the team is winning games the first person to gets put on a high throan is the QB. We have seen JC in both of these seats through out this season. Most of the people who designate the seating arrangements don't know a damn thing about football other than that when a team loses the QB is horrible and when the team wins the QB is god.

I personally find it quite funny, and I laugh when I talk football with people like this...then I walk away shaking my head.

its real simple......without Portis, we would be well below a 500 team. Campbell cannot carry the team if he had to. He never has had to carry the team and hes not getting it done.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by charlielyons

its real simple......without Portis, we would be well below a 500 team. Campbell cannot carry the team if he had to. He never has had to carry the team and hes not getting it done.

No teams win with just a QB. Ask Marino. Even the colts offense a few years ago limped into the playoffs and played a different ballgame when bob sanders came back to shore up their D.

We can definitely win with Campbell. We just need a better team around him. Colt Brennan would not be anywhere near 7 wins right now. I don't know how long you've been watching football (in particular the redskins) but guys like Ryan and Flacco are coming into teams (falcons surprisingly) with excellent ground games and good defenses. Neither are winning their division either, and both have very similar records to the redskins...

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by EternalEnigma21

No teams win with just a QB. Ask Marino. Even the colts offense a few years ago limped into the playoffs and played a different ballgame when bob sanders came back to shore up their D.

We can definitely win with Campbell. We just need a better team around him. Colt Brennan would not be anywhere near 7 wins right now. I don't know how long you've been watching football (in particular the redskins) but guys like Ryan and Flacco are coming into teams (falcons surprisingly) with excellent ground games and good defenses. Neither are winning their division either, and both have very similar records to the redskins...

but each of those teams are showing signs of improvement each week and the skins have the NFLs leading rusher. He takes 2 steps forward and 5 back alot.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by EternalEnigma21

No teams win with just a QB. Ask Marino. Even the colts offense a few years ago limped into the playoffs and played a different ballgame when bob sanders came back to shore up their D.

We can definitely win with Campbell. We just need a better team around him. Colt Brennan would not be anywhere near 7 wins right now. I don't know how long you've been watching football (in particular the redskins) but guys like Ryan and Flacco are coming into teams (falcons surprisingly) with excellent ground games and good defenses. Neither are winning their division either, and both have very similar records to the redskins...

If Marino was our Qb , we would be scoring 27 pts per game . We have a great ground game and the # 3 defense . WR's and JC are not getting it done at the moment

[JLW428]

Originally Posted by budw38

If Marino was our Qb , we would be scoring 27 pts per game . We have a great ground game and the # 3 defense . WR's and JC are not getting it done at the moment

How is JC supposed to get it done without a WR core? Yell at them to get open down feild? Force them to catch the ball? The WRs are the ones that are making JC look worse than he really is.

[JLW428]

Originally Posted by charlielyons

its real simple......without Portis, we would be well below a 500 team. Campbell cannot carry the team if he had to. He never has had to carry the team and hes not getting it done.

Okay, Portis is the heart of the offense (no argument there). However, it doesn't help Campbell much when Thrash, Kelly, Randle el, and Thomas drop his passes ALOT of the time - most of which would have sustained the drive with a first down. <-- Thats just what it looks like to me, I'd like to see the numbers to back it up, but I don't think I am very far off with that statement.

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by JLW428

Okay, Portis is the heart of the offense (no argument there). However, it doesn't help Campbell much when Thrash, Kelly, Randle el, and Thomas drop his passes ALOT of the time - most of which would have sustained the drive with a first down. <-- Thats just what it looks like to me, I'd like to see the numbers to back it up, but I don't think I am very far off with that statement.

they do drop alot of balls(very correct there). all im saying with the playoffs picture looking dark why not take a look at what we have on the bench and not just at QB...in alot of positions

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by charlielyons

they do drop alot of balls(very correct there). all im saying with the playoffs picture looking dark why not take a look at what we have on the bench and not just at QB...in alot of positions

Most of your statements have been far off. First of all we are not out of the play-offs yet. Even if we loss against Baltimore we might not be out of the play-offs. If we win out or atleast only take 1 lose to the AFC. We still might sqeak in. I would rather win out though. So to replace the QB at this time. Would be idiotic. Why because we are still in it. if we were 5-7. Or worse it might be different. But for now. Chill out and lets see if we can adjust and if the O-line can protect JC and the WRs especially the rookies can step up and hodl on to the ball. That's our achilles heel. Hopefully we can get some wind behind us if we win against the Ravens. But saying to replace the QB right now is not a good option and I question many of your statements.