John Lynch is available, should we make a move?

[4olddc]

Lynch is 37, but he's a great player and leader. If we can get him for a decent price and is willing to go along with our schemes, I think he would be a fantastic pickup. Thoughts?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 4olddc

Lynch is 37, but he's a great player and leader. If we can get him for a decent price and is willing to go along with out schemes, I think he would be a fantastic pickup. Thoughts?

What in the world are you talking about?

[rypper11]

Yes, yes and yes. Put him in at strong safety for a year with Reed playing spot duty and special teams.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by rypper11

Yes, yes and yes. Put him in at strong safety for a year with Reed playing spot duty and special teams.

Originally Posted by 4olddc

Lynch is 37, but he's a great player and leader. If we can get him for a decent price and is willing to go along with our schemes, I think he would be a fantastic pickup. Thoughts?

[Dirtbag59]

Ok, now that I got that out of my system it's time to argue. The stigma that Reed Doughty is not a starter in this league is killing me and the view that we need to replace him after he proved himself to the point of earning a starting job this year is obsurd.

Now before I get further into this argument let me say that I think the anxiousness to replace Doughty with a bigger name is based, for a good amount of people, on lossing a player like Sean Taylor. I think people got use to the idea of having two big name safetys and they want that back. Thats why every available safety that pops up gets a strong push from "lobbyist" here on the Warpath. Other people just want the Redskins to have better Madden players so they can use them when the game comes out.

With that said, the last time we ignored a productive player on our roster in favor of a big name we signed Adam Archuletta and let Ryan Clark go to the Steelers. Afterwards people were begging for Ryan Clark to come back in the months leading up to the draft.

I don't know the KC Joyner metrics on how Reed played last year but we do have numbers such as tackles and such that we can match up with endorsements from the coaching staff. First of all his performance at SS when he started looks identical in terms of numbers when compared to Landry's time at SS and as I have stated before, if Doughty is as good as a rookie (first 8 or so games) Laron Landry then awesome.

On top of that Doughty was cited by Cooley as the hardest working player this offseason and by Cooleys own admission he see's Doughty having a breakout year. Now does this mean it will happen, not necessarily (see JP Losman), but SS is a lot easier to play then QB and Doughty performed well at SS last year. If someone can prove otherwise please let me know as I only have numbers, endorsements, and overall defensive performance to go on at this point so if someone has anything else to counter this then let me know.

However everyone's favorite new Redskin Stuart Schwiegert has yet to convince Blache that a Landry-Schweigert combo is better then a Landry-Doughty combo. And untill we see otherwise I am going to continue to endorse Doughty as the starting SS for 2008. He's at least earned that.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Ok, now that I got that out of my system it's time to argue. The stigma that Reed Doughty is not a starter in this league is killing me and the view that we need to replace him after he proved himself to the point of earning a starting job this year is obsurd.

Now before I get further into this argument let me say that I think the anxiousness to replace Doughty with a bigger name is based, for a good amount of people, on lossing a player like Sean Taylor. I think people got use to the idea of having two big name safetys and they want that back. Thats why every available safety that pops up gets a strong push from "lobbyist" here on the Warpath. Other people just want the Redskins to have better Madden players so they can use them when the game comes out.

With that said, the last time we ignored a productive player on our roster in favor of a big name we signed Adam Archuletta and let Ryan Clark go to the Steelers. Afterwards people were begging for Ryan Clark to come back in the months leading up to the draft.

I don't know the KC Joyner metrics on how Reed played last year but we do have numbers such as tackles and such that we can match up with endorsements from the coaching staff. Doughty has both. First of all his performance at SS when he started looks identical in terms of numbers when compared to Landry's time at SS and as I have stated before, if Doughty is as good as a rookie (first 8 or so games) Laron Landry then awesome.

On top of that Doughty was cited by Cooley as the hardest working player this offseason and by Cooleys own admission he see's Doughty having a breakout year. Now does this mean it will happen, not necessarily (see JP Losman), but SS is a lot easier to play then QB and Doughty performed well at SS last year. If someone can prove otherwise please let me know as I only have numbers, endorsements, and overall defensive performance to go on at this point so if someone has anything else to counter this then let me know.

However everyone's favorite new Redskin Stuart Schwiegert has yet to convince Blache that a Landry-Schweigert combo is better then a Landry-Doughty combo. And untill we see otherwise I am going to continue to endorse Doughty as the starting SS for 2008. He's at least earned that.

You get that with any big name free agent on the Warpath. People see these big name free agents and automatically want the skins to sign them. Then when they flop, those same people get on here and complain about how Snyder doesn't get it and that he should build through the draft and not waste the salary cap on these big names.

Doughty is a very capable safety. He will have a great season especially with a improved DL.

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Ok, now that I got that out of my system it's time to argue. The stigma that Reed Doughty is not a starter in this league is killing me and the view that we need to replace him after he proved himself to the point of earning a starting job this year is obsurd.

Now before I get further into this argument let me say that I think the anxiousness to replace Doughty with a bigger name is based, for a good amount of people, on lossing a player like Sean Taylor. I think people got use to the idea of having two big name safetys and they want that back. Thats why every available safety that pops up gets a strong push from "lobbyist" here on the Warpath. Other people just want the Redskins to have better Madden players so they can use them when the game comes out.

With that said, the last time we ignored a productive player on our roster in favor of a big name we signed Adam Archuletta and let Ryan Clark go to the Steelers. Afterwards people were begging for Ryan Clark to come back in the months leading up to the draft.

I don't know the KC Joyner metrics on how Reed played last year but we do have numbers such as tackles and such that we can match up with endorsements from the coaching staff. First of all his performance at SS when he started looks identical in terms of numbers when compared to Landry's time at SS and as I have stated before, if Doughty is as good as a rookie (first 8 or so games) Laron Landry then awesome.

On top of that Doughty was cited by Cooley as the hardest working player this offseason and by Cooleys own admission he see's Doughty having a breakout year. Now does this mean it will happen, not necessarily (see JP Losman), but SS is a lot easier to play then QB and Doughty performed well at SS last year. If someone can prove otherwise please let me know as I only have numbers, endorsements, and overall defensive performance to go on at this point so if someone has anything else to counter this then let me know.

However everyone's favorite new Redskin Stuart Schwiegert has yet to convince Blache that a Landry-Schweigert combo is better then a Landry-Doughty combo. And untill we see otherwise I am going to continue to endorse Doughty as the starting SS for 2008. He's at least earned that.

Since when did we start handing out starting jobs here in Washington based on a mediocre 8 starts from the season before? For you to say that Doughty "earned" the starting SS spot based solely on his mediocre 8 starts from last season and because Chris Cooley is hyping him absolutely blows my mind. Seriously, am I missing something here with Doughty that you're comapring him to LaRon Landry just based on tackles? Sure, he has a nice story: A hard working, over-achieving, I-AA kid who got a chance to play because of a tragedy. I can absolutely see why a lot of people like Doughty: he's a good guy, he's easy to root for, and he's someone who everyone wants to see succeed, but to me he's nothing more than a run stopping safety/special teams ace in this leauge. And no I am not looking for a "big name" player to replace Doughty. I fully expect Chris Horton or Kareem Moore to replace him somewhere in the near future. If Reed does well this year, as the starting SS for us, I will be the first person to admit that I was wrong about him, but unfortunately I have some serious reservations about Doughty being our starting SS this year.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Since when did we start handing out starting jobs here in Washington based on a mediocre 8 starts from the season before? For you to say that Doughty "earned" the starting SS spot based solely on his mediocre 8 starts from last season and because Chris Cooley is hyping him absolutely blows my mind. Seriously, am I missing something here with Doughty that you're comapring him to LaRon Landry just based on tackles? Sure, he has a nice story: A hard working, over-achieving, I-AA kid who got a chance to play because of a tragedy. I can absolutely see why a lot of people like Doughty: he's a good guy, he's easy to root for, and he's someone who everyone wants to see succeed, but to me he's nothing more than a run stopping safety/special teams ace in this leauge. And no I am not looking for a "big name" player to replace Doughty. I fully expect Chris Horton or Kareem Moore to replace him somewhere in the near future. If Reed does well this year, as the starting SS for us, I will be the first person to admit that I was wrong about him, but unfortunately I have some serious reservations about Doughty being our starting SS this year.

Start performing you mouth exercises. The coaching staff took notice of him before this offseason and before the Taylor tragedy. He was going to earn a position somewhere if not here. Because of the tragedy he got a starting gig here.

Food for thought. What round was Doughty drafted in? What rounds were Horton and Moore drafted in? If you answered 6, 7 and 6 then you would be correct. If you had a need to replace a 6th round safety, then why in the world would you wait until the 6th ad 7th round to find someone to eventually replace him?(don't answer that, it's rhetorical) If we needed someone to subplant Doughty, then they would have drafted a Safety earlier in the Draft. Furthermore, what is the purpose of drafting players in the 6th and 7th rounds?(more rhetoric) Depth.

Doughty did his damn job last season. Nothing more and nothing less. He made tackles when he was supposed to make tackles and defended passes when he needed to defend passes. People often get so star struck that they believe that they need a pro Bowl roster from top to bottom to win anything; sometimes they just need dedicated Football players who do their damn job. Doughty is dedicated and he does his damn job.

[Dantheskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Ok, now that I got that out of my system it's time to argue. The stigma that Reed Doughty is not a starter in this league is killing me and the view that we need to replace him after he proved himself to the point of earning a starting job this year is obsurd.

Now before I get further into this argument let me say that I think the anxiousness to replace Doughty with a bigger name is based, for a good amount of people, on lossing a player like Sean Taylor. I think people got use to the idea of having two big name safetys and they want that back. Thats why every available safety that pops up gets a strong push from "lobbyist" here on the Warpath. Other people just want the Redskins to have better Madden players so they can use them when the game comes out.

With that said, the last time we ignored a productive player on our roster in favor of a big name we signed Adam Archuletta and let Ryan Clark go to the Steelers. Afterwards people were begging for Ryan Clark to come back in the months leading up to the draft.

I don't know the KC Joyner metrics on how Reed played last year but we do have numbers such as tackles and such that we can match up with endorsements from the coaching staff. First of all his performance at SS when he started looks identical in terms of numbers when compared to Landry's time at SS and as I have stated before, if Doughty is as good as a rookie (first 8 or so games) Laron Landry then awesome.

On top of that Doughty was cited by Cooley as the hardest working player this offseason and by Cooleys own admission he see's Doughty having a breakout year. Now does this mean it will happen, not necessarily (see JP Losman), but SS is a lot easier to play then QB and Doughty performed well at SS last year. If someone can prove otherwise please let me know as I only have numbers, endorsements, and overall defensive performance to go on at this point so if someone has anything else to counter this then let me know.

However everyone's favorite new Redskin Stuart Schwiegert has yet to convince Blache that a Landry-Schweigert combo is better then a Landry-Doughty combo. And untill we see otherwise I am going to continue to endorse Doughty as the starting SS for 2008. He's at least earned that.

he went to the the giants, not the steelers

but agreed on the point, no more washed up big names

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dantheskinsfan

he went to the the giants, not the steelers

but agreed on the point, no more washed up big names

Are you talking about Ryan Clark? He went to the Steelers

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Ok, now that I got that out of my system it's time to argue. The stigma that Reed Doughty is not a starter in this league is killing me and the view that we need to replace him after he proved himself to the point of earning a starting job this year is obsurd.

Now before I get further into this argument let me say that I think the anxiousness to replace Doughty with a bigger name is based, for a good amount of people, on lossing a player like Sean Taylor. I think people got use to the idea of having two big name safetys and they want that back. Thats why every available safety that pops up gets a strong push from "lobbyist" here on the Warpath. Other people just want the Redskins to have better Madden players so they can use them when the game comes out.

With that said, the last time we ignored a productive player on our roster in favor of a big name we signed Adam Archuletta and let Ryan Clark go to the Steelers. Afterwards people were begging for Ryan Clark to come back in the months leading up to the draft.

I don't know the KC Joyner metrics on how Reed played last year but we do have numbers such as tackles and such that we can match up with endorsements from the coaching staff. First of all his performance at SS when he started looks identical in terms of numbers when compared to Landry's time at SS and as I have stated before, if Doughty is as good as a rookie (first 8 or so games) Laron Landry then awesome.

On top of that Doughty was cited by Cooley as the hardest working player this offseason and by Cooleys own admission he see's Doughty having a breakout year. Now does this mean it will happen, not necessarily (see JP Losman), but SS is a lot easier to play then QB and Doughty performed well at SS last year. If someone can prove otherwise please let me know as I only have numbers, endorsements, and overall defensive performance to go on at this point so if someone has anything else to counter this then let me know.

However everyone's favorite new Redskin Stuart Schwiegert has yet to convince Blache that a Landry-Schweigert combo is better then a Landry-Doughty combo. And untill we see otherwise I am going to continue to endorse Doughty as the starting SS for 2008. He's at least earned that.

Area 51 can never be replaced. We need to give Doughty a chance.

[4olddc]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What in the world are you talking about?

John Lynch; he played safety for the Broncos. Several places are reporting that he has left the team and is either looking for a new one or he wants to go into broadcasting.

[rypper11]

here's a link:

The Canadian Press: Report: Denver Broncos safety John Lynch wants to leave the team

PS: I don't think he was asking who Lynch is, just what news item are you referring to.

[skinsfan69]

Wow. I guess he's done. He should hang it up. He's had a great career.

[jamf]

No!
No more retreads.

At some point a player has to earn their roster spot. Make a young guy earn the spot and we will be better off down the road.