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Old 04-28-2008, 01:49 PM   #1
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Who Gets Cut Before or After June 1/Salary Cap Day?!

The draft is over, but the next big date is the beginning of June when teams release players for salary cap relief. Many times after teams draft for depth, they can now "afford" to release certain players that have been a strain on their salary cap.

This is why I believe the Redskins did not address the D-Line, LB, and O-Line positions during the draft like everyone thought they would. I believe that the Skins will target veteran talent to fill need at these critical positions. There should be substantial talent available around this time, and I firmly believe the Redskins braintrust will be active here, just like in the draft.

This may require some research, but here are the questions that I pose to The Warpath:

1) Which players, that will be June cap casualties, do you think the Skins will pick up?

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2) Who do you believe the Redskins will release come June?


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Old 04-28-2008, 01:54 PM   #2
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Re: Who Gets Cut After June 1/Salary Cap Day?!

No one. They could have already been released already for the same cap effect.
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Old 04-28-2008, 01:56 PM   #3
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No one. They could have already been released already for the same cap effect.
Thats not true.

I dont feel like getting into it, but the NFL set a date to give a break to teams taht cut players before a certain date in June.

We took advantage of that when we let Jeremiah Trotter and his huge contract go. Look it up.
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Thats not true.

I dont feel like getting into it, but the NFL set a date to give a break to teams taht cut players before a certain date in June.

We took advantage of that when we let Jeremiah Trotter and his huge contract go. Look it up.
GTripp is correct.

Brandon Lloyd was an example, we already released him, allowing him to sign on with the Bears (have fun, Lovie), but he was designated a post-June 1 move, allowing us to spread his dead cap money over two seasons.

Each NFL team can do this with up to two players per season. This is a rule adopted into the most recent version of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

In other words, if any June 1 casualties were going to hit, they've already been released from their teams.

Besides, few teams are in dire need of cap relief. There just aren't June 1 casualties like there used to be.
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:21 PM   #5
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GTripp is correct.

Brandon Lloyd was an example, we already released him, allowing him to sign on with the Bears (have fun, Lovie), but he was designated a post-June 1 move, allowing us to spread his dead cap money over two seasons.

Each NFL team can do this with up to two players per season. This is a rule adopted into the most recent version of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

In other words, if any June 1 casualties were going to hit, they've already been released from their teams.

Besides, few teams are in dire need of cap relief. There just aren't June 1 casualties like there used to be.
Apparently, there is a misunderstanding. We are saying the same things about the June salary cap date, but in a different manner.

The questions and principle still stand. Now that teams have drafted talent, teams will begin to release players up until & after the first week in June, and in the interest of creating more space to sign rookies and UDFA, there will be cuts.

So who do we release(and we WILL release a player or two), and who do we pick up when teams start to trim their rosters according to cap constraints?
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Old 04-28-2008, 05:18 PM   #6
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Re: Who Gets Cut After June 1/Salary Cap Day?!

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Thats not true.

I dont feel like getting into it, but the NFL set a date to give a break to teams taht cut players before a certain date in June.

We took advantage of that when we let Jeremiah Trotter and his huge contract go. Look it up.
91, it's not a good idea to challenge the cap guys when it comes to anything that deals with the salary cap. They're right about 97% of the time.
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:07 PM   #7
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91, it's not a good idea to challenge the cap guys when it comes to anything that deals with the salary cap. They're right about 97% of the time.
OK, he can be a cap guy, and I was not challenging him. I was just saying something that everyone already knows. After a certain point, teams will being to release players. How could they not release players when they pick up 7+ players in the draft? These players can be a bargain and be adequate replacements for veterans with hefty contracts.

Except for a few new additions to CBA, there will be a litany of roster moves after the draft, leading up to and after training camp. That is all I am saying.

If no one gets released, then I am in the 97%, but if players do begin to become available after being released, like I know they will, then consider this the 3%.
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Old 04-28-2008, 07:15 PM   #8
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We need to cut at least one person at receiver. I would wager that Mathis is gone, but I could see two people going. Either Thrash or Mix and both of them are about equal value only because Thrash is old and Mix is very young.
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:24 PM   #9
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There is no way we are going to cut anyone come june 1. On that day we will have 9.8 mil in salary cap space...that's as soon as Lloyd is designated a june 1st cut. I wish there were some way we could reverse that decision and not have him be a june 1st cut, but i dont think there is, we would still be 4.5 mil under the cap if he was a normal cut. I think we were thinking we were going to make a big move when that happened, but obviously that didnt work out. The only thing we could still do is make a big signing when someone else is designated a june 1st cut, but i find that unlikely to happen because I dont think there will be anyone cut that we want to sign. We shot ourselves in the foot by designating Lloyd a June 1st cut, that's 5.3 mil we dont have on next years salary cap that we could have paid this year.
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Old 04-28-2008, 11:25 PM   #10
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91, it's not a good idea to challenge the cap guys when it comes to anything that deals with the salary cap. They're right about 97% of the time.
I was about the type the same thing, except substitute 99.9% in for 97%, but I think what he was saying is that given our draft, we now have some players that were vital before that now are expendable- frost for instance (once the kid dominates him...), likely a WR as well...
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:05 AM   #11
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Thats not true.

I dont feel like getting into it, but the NFL set a date to give a break to teams taht cut players before a certain date in June.

We took advantage of that when we let Jeremiah Trotter and his huge contract go. Look it up.
that changed a couple years ago. 2 players per year can be counted as post june 1 cuts even if they're released right after the season ends. player were tired of hitting the market after all the money was gone.
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:10 PM   #12
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Re: Who Gets Cut After June 1/Salary Cap Day?!

We can now trim the WR logjam down by getting rid of Thrash, I would keep Mix since he would be like another draft pick to us since he has not played. We still need to address the Dee, without giving away any of next year's dfrat picks. The draft is the way to build a team.
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:13 PM   #13
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We can now trim the WR logjam down by getting rid of Thrash, I would keep Mix since he would be like another draft pick to us since he has not played. We still need to address the Dee, without giving away any of next year's dfrat picks. The draft is the way to build a team.
I really hope that won't be the case..
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Re: Who Gets Cut After June 1/Salary Cap Day?!

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This may require some research, but here are the questions that I pose to The Warpath:

1) Which players, that will be June cap casualties, do you think the Skins will pick up?

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2) Who do you believe the Redskins will release come June?


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I hate it when people order me to discuss things. As this is an interesting topic to me, I may join in the substantive discussion at some point, but I am feeling put off by the requirement that I discuss this topic. Perhaps I will withhold my brilliance just out of spite.

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Old 04-28-2008, 02:23 PM   #15
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I hate it when people order me to discuss things. As this is an interesting topic to me, I may join in the substantive discussion at some point, but I am feeling put off by the requirement that I discuss this topic. Perhaps I will withhold my brilliance just out of spite.

See, you're making me spiteful - now, I am really displeased.
U r grown. U dont have to do anything that you do not want to do.

But it would be nice to get your opinion.
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