What if Colt Brennan falls to the middle late rounds?

[redsk1]

It looks as if Colt Brennan didn't impress too much at the Senior Bowl this year. I believe some GM's feel as if he's a product of a great offensive system. They are questioning his mechanics, release points, and some question his physical stature.

For a guy that's set all kinds of records and can obviously play, should we draft him if he slides to the 3rd-5th round of the draft.

I think you've got to take a chance on him if he slides to the 4th round or later (i believe we have a 4th....no i didn't research it). Yes, i know JC is our guy, but why not take a chance to groom someone that could work on mechanics and build strength. Then in a couple years, who knows...Good qb's are hard to find and everyone wants one. Think of Rivers/Brees. Thoughts?

[MTK]

We don't have a 4th, gave it up in the Duckett deal.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

We let him stay there

[SmootSmack]

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•Colt Brennan, Hawaii quarterback. His stock has been in free fall since the end of the regular season. He will need to weigh more than the 186 pounds he weighed at the Senior Bowl (he blamed it on the flu), and he needs to answer questions about his character in interviews with executives. One front-office man said Brennan has been coming across like a "jackass" in interviews

Granted, that's just one man's opinion but it's potentially something the other teams are keeping an eye on.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

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Granted, that's just one man's opinion but it's potentially something the other teams are keeping an eye on.

Like a jackass huh? That's funny

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

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Granted, that's just one man's opinion but it's potentially something the other teams are keeping an eye on.

Have you seen any pictures of him? He looks like a total tool. I've also seen a few interviews of the guy and came away less than impressed.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

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Granted, that's just one man's opinion but it's potentially something the other teams are keeping an eye on.

Yeah, i've heard him interview on the radio and he came off really well. I've seen him on TV and he didn't come accross as well. Maybe its just a look or personality thing...not sure.

I know that he got into a little trouble a few years ago but I believe he's been a model citizen since.

Sounds like it he would be a project, and of course our scouts would have to do some due diligence, but might be worth a look.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by redsk1

It looks as if Colt Brennan didn't impress too much at the Senior Bowl this year. I believe some GM's feel as if he's a product of a great offensive system. They are questioning his mechanics, release points, and some question his physical stature.

For a guy that's set all kinds of records and can obviously play, should we draft him if he slides to the 3rd-5th round of the draft.

I think you've got to take a chance on him if he slides to the 4th round or later (i believe we have a 4th....no i didn't research it). Yes, i know JC is our guy, but why not take a chance to groom someone that could work on mechanics and build strength. Then in a couple years, who knows...Good qb's are hard to find and everyone wants one. Think of Rivers/Brees. Thoughts?

NOOOOOOO!!!!! I'd rather us bring back Brunell to play 3rd string than draft this guy. He IS NOT pro material and we have too many other needs than wasting a draft pick on someone who doesn't have a chance to play anytime soon.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Not quotes you like to hear about a QB prospect, even a late round guy:

"In June Jone's system, even Timmy Chang :vomit:excelled."
"The best thing for Brennan to do is face some serious competition his senior year, but that is not to be the case. Only Boise St. brings a quality defense."
"He throws too many interceptions, needs to develop more patience and improve his footwork"

He blew up competition in the WAC, only weighs 190, is "barely 6'2", and a "comes across as a jackass" (LOL). Let Mike Martz draft him.

[jsarno]

here is a scouting report for him:

Position: Quarterback
School: Hawaii

Status: Senior

Height: 6-2

Weight: 195

40-Yard Dash: 4.90

Positives:
Brennan possesses a very live arm with surprising accuracy. Possibly the quickest release among all the quarterbacks in the draft. He's athletic enough to evade a pass rush and roll out, but not much else. Brennan stands tall in the pocket and makes quick decisions, understanding where to place the ball, and sometimes seems to be able to read opposing coverages, which will lower his learning curve in the NFL.
Negatives:
Colt's a bit light at somewhere between 190 and 200 pounds, but has the frame to get to a better playing weight for an NFL QB. Because he will inevitably draw the “system quarterback” label due to his time in coach June Jones' pass-happy system, he will have to test very well at the Combine and in workouts. He's sometimes too willing to throw to an outlet receiver when he has a man open farther downfield.
Overview:
Brennan's an odd prospect. On one hand, he looks like he could be the second coming of Joe Montana, with a strong arm and a natural feel for the game. But on the other, there's significant doubt about how much of his success is his, and how much of it is the system he was in.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

The scouting report failed to mention that Brennan's "negatives" includes being a massive douche bag.

[mauiRedskinbarn]

Brennen is one of the most accurate passers in this draft. Given he threw a few ints, his completion rating is still over 70% for three years. I live in Hawaii and have been watching him for some time now. He is the greatest thing that ever happened to Hawaii football, and had to deal with the preasure of the whole state on his shoulders week after week. There were many times this year where he wasn't having a very good game but would still drive down for the winning touchdown. He can handle pressure, and he has the composure to drive down for the winning/tying score. He is developed enough for a pro system, especially a passing system (Jim Zorn's system). I say if he falls to the fifth or sixth snag him and keep him as our third stringer, you never know who will be the next tom brady.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by mauiRedskinbarn

Brennen is one of the most accurate passers in this draft. Given he threw a few ints, his completion rating is still over 70% for three years. I live in Hawaii and have been watching him for some time now. He is the greatest thing that ever happened to Hawaii football, and had to deal with the preasure of the whole state on his shoulders week after week. There were many times this year where he wasn't having a very good game but would still drive down for the winning touchdown. He can handle pressure, and he has the composure to drive down for the winning/tying score. He is developed enough for a pro system, especially a passing system (Jim Zorn's system). I say if he falls to the fifth or sixth snag him and keep him as our third stringer, you never know who will be the next tom brady.

I agree with you.
I planned my trip to Hawaii for almost 2 years, and because I did that, I followed Hawaii football more than I normally would have. Even when I was there about a month ago (I was even staying on Waikiki beach when they had their parade and it was a shame Jones wasn't there), I talked with several people about Brennan, and he is nothing short of a cult hero there. Not a single person mentioned he had a poor "attitude". I think people that are calling him a douche bag, or poor attitude person are listening to a rumor by someone. I just don't think it's true.
Brennan is a winner, and you can't teach that. Sure he looked bad at the senior bowl, and he is a product of the June Jones system. But everyone is a system QB. Doesn't matter who you are. Because Brennan flourished in Jones' system doesn't mean he can't do well in another system. Tom Brady does great in Belechick's system, does that mean he's a system QB? Manning does well in Moore's system, does that mean he's a system QB? Please note I am not comparing Brady / Manning to Brennan, just pointing out how these players did well under the same exact system their entire career.
I agree with Mauiredskinbarn, this kid has something special. He had many comebacks that it looked and felt like he would singlehandedly put the team on his shoulders and will them to win despite large odds against him. If we can take a chance on a useless Palmer, why not Brennan? ESPECIALLY in the 5th round!!!

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I agree with you.
I planned my trip to Hawaii for almost 2 years, and because I did that, I followed Hawaii football more than I normally would have. Even when I was there about a month ago (I was even staying on Waikiki beach when they had their parade and it was a shame Jones wasn't there), I talked with several people about Brennan, and he is nothing short of a cult hero there. Not a single person mentioned he had a poor "attitude". I think people that are calling him a douche bag, or poor attitude person are listening to a rumor by someone. I just don't think it's true.
Brennan is a winner, and you can't teach that. Sure he looked bad at the senior bowl, and he is a product of the June Jones system. But everyone is a system QB. Doesn't matter who you are. Because Brennan flourished in Jones' system doesn't mean he can't do well in another system. Tom Brady does great in Belechick's system, does that mean he's a system QB? Manning does well in Moore's system, does that mean he's a system QB? Please note I am not comparing Brady / Manning to Brennan, just pointing out how these players did well under the same exact system their entire career.
I agree with Mauiredskinbarn, this kid has something special. He had many comebacks that it looked and felt like he would singlehandedly put the team on his shoulders and will them to win despite large odds against him. If we can take a chance on a useless Palmer, why not Brennan? ESPECIALLY in the 5th round!!!

Exactly. If we can waste a pick on Palmer why not Brennan?

I think people see him and think he's a "douchebag," however if you just listen to him he comes accross ok.

He'll most likely go before the 5th round but you never know.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Exactly. If we can waste a pick on Palmer why not Brennan?

I think people see him and think he's a "douchebag," however if you just listen to him he comes accross ok.

He'll most likely go before the 5th round but you never know.

Does anyone know what Mel Kiper is saying as to where this kid will go?
(he's the only guy I really listen to when it comes to mock drafts)