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Old 02-19-2008, 11:55 AM   #1
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Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

It seems to me that there arent many quality possesion recievers out on the market right now, just big play recievers. At first I thought that we shouldnt get these guys because Moss is our big play reciever, but then I got to thinking that Moss is kind of similar to Welker in that they are both very quick. So I was thinking that if we got a big play reciever ala CJ (even though this example prolly wont work out) CJ could be our randy moss and sanana moss could be our wes welker. Just a thought...please dont hate.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:01 PM   #2
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

We sure as heck need somebody who is taller than 5'10".

Personally I say bring CJ on. But no first round picks please.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:02 PM   #3
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

It would be a nice luxury to put Moss in the slot but I don't see it happening.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:10 PM   #4
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

My bad, I didnt fully express my question. I meant to also ask that if we could get someone of the skill of lets say...bernard berrian, could we make him our big play reciever and have moss be the slot.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:10 PM   #5
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It would be a nice luxury to put Moss in the slot but I don't see it happening.
RE slot. Moss needs to get involved very early and stay in our gameplan. Too often he wasn't even looked at and he did have some big drops for us last year. Hope we can bring in a tall guy and have 3 solid wideouts.

Not sure where we are going to find that WR though???
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:17 PM   #6
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

ummm, yeah if he improved his hands 100% from last year. The slot is probably where he has belonged all along but we don't have the typical 1+2 wrs...
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:23 PM   #7
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

I think you move him around based on matchups and gameplan. Ideally we'd acquire a stud WR to team with Moss and ARE, and then you'd have the luxury of moving Moss and ARE in and out of the slot.

Without the ideal stud WR, I still think you move them around, but Moss generally belongs on the outside.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:25 PM   #8
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

Without a doubt Santana Moss can outplay Welker in the same situation.

The real issues are:
Can Campbell play like brady?
Can the Oline block like the patriots?
Can Randle El draw a double/triple team like Moss?
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:48 PM   #9
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

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Without a doubt Santana Moss can outplay Welker in the same situation.

The real issues are:
Can Campbell play like brady?
Can the Oline block like the patriots?
Can Randle El draw a double/triple team like Moss?
No way in hell does SM outplay Welker. How would Moss hold up running all those patterns over the middle? He'd pull a groin within the first 5 games. He just can't take all the punishment running over the middle. Welker had something like 110 catches and the majority were right where the LB's roam. Moss is simply not that type of wr and never will be.
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Old 02-19-2008, 04:03 PM   #10
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

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Can the Oline block like the patriots?
I hope not. Our offense is predicated on the running game and if you remember the Patriots running game struggled throughout the year. They were great at pass protection but sometimes I wonder if the emphasis on passing the ball took time out of practice to go over run blocking.

Also Santana Moss is just as good as Wes Welker, and in my opinion, probably better. Wes Welker has never had a 1,400+ yard season as far as I can recall. Plus Welker just had his best season as a #2 catching passes from Tom Brady. On top of that Moss had his 1,400 yard season catching balls from Mark Brunell.
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:00 PM   #11
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

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Without a doubt Santana Moss can outplay Welker in the same situation.

The real issues are:
Can Campbell play like brady?
Can the Oline block like the patriots?
Can Randle El draw a double/triple team like Moss?
I totally agree that Moss would be better than Welker if they traded spots, and it wouldn't be close. Welker is great in the slot because he's extremely quick, but he's not particularly fast. He also has two 4.3 guys (Randy Moss and Donte Stallworth) occupying the DB's downfield which isolates him against linebackers. Don't get me wrong, Welker had an incredible season, but he would be a severe liability as a #1 receiver in any offense. Imagine ANY linebacker trying to keep up with Santana in the slot. 'Nuff said.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:27 PM   #12
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

Welker is fearless going over the middle, doesn't drop passes and doesn't get hurt. So I would say no.
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Old 02-19-2008, 04:07 PM   #13
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

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Welker is fearless going over the middle, doesn't drop passes and doesn't get hurt. So I would say no.
I tend to agree w/ you. I'm not sure you can say w/out question that SM is better than WW.

Different kinds of recievers.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:37 PM   #14
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

I don't think so. I think Moss is a little too fragile to be that guy. Welker is a tough SOB and proved he can take a beating across the middle for a 16 game season. Moss can't stay healthy on the outside, let alone the slot!
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:49 PM   #15
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

I always wondered why we got away from all the screens we threw to Moss and Cooley in 2005. We were probably the best screen team in the league that year. I wonder if Zorn's system will run anything similar.
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