PFT Rumor: Redskins to Fire Personnel Department After Draft

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

'SKINS TO CLEAN HOUSE AFTER THE DRAFT?

There's talk in league circles that the Washington Redskins will clean out the personnel department following the 2007 draft.

It's presently unclear whether V.P. of football operations Vinny Cerrato would be caught up in the rumored purge. Cerrato was fired by the team during the failed Marty Schottenheimer experiment, and re-hired after Marty was Schott-canned.

Per the 2006 NFL Record & Fact Book, the front office also includes director of pro personnel Louis Riddick, director of college scouting Scott Campbell, pro scouts Terry Ray and Donnie Warren, college scouts Mike Faulkiner, Tim Gribble, Shemy Schembechler, and Jim Zeches, national scouts Russ Bolinger and Joel Patten, and director of football administrtion Eric Schaffer.

I wonder who people will scapegoat after Vinny is gone?

[dall-assblows]

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[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by dall-assblows

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If they fire Eric Shaffer after the many miracles he's pulled, they're crazy.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

If they fire Eric Shaffer after the many miracles he's pulled, they're crazy.

Here here.

The only way this makes sense is if we start moving toward a more long term route of using the draft. Otherwise why fire a bunch of guys who basically don't do much anyways. Relative to the amount of players they bring in that is. I would imagine FA is mainly handled by position coaches and coordinators.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

If they fire Eric Shaffer after the many miracles he's pulled, they're crazy.

amen

[EXoffender]

No need for scouts if we don't have draft picks...

[offiss]

Originally Posted by EXoffender

No need for scouts if we don't have draft picks...

Got that right!

This falls completly on Gibbs shoulders, he's the one who just had to have Brunell, he's the one who just had to have Portis, and so on, am I to believe that he is not responsable for player personel? He has spoken extensivly on how much he loves the NFL now with free agency, he basically tried to usher in a new way of building teams, shun the draft and overpay for players. I am curious what has the scouting dept done wrong? Did they insist on moving up to pick Campbell? Did they insist on moving up to take Mcintosh? And on and on we go. So now we will fire these guy's that are responsable for our failure with the draft, but oh by the way, they will be running this draft for old times sake. Makes a lot of sense, we really need them for this draft after all they have one pick to deceide on.

When it comes to personel, we have the blind leading the blind, does it really matter who we fire? If Gibbs can't spot talent how is he going to find a top talent evaluator? Then hand over all personel decisions to him, I really don't think that will happen.

The draft for Gibbs is like a giant pinata, he's running around in the war room with a blindfold and a big stick hopeing when he gets his turn to swing a good player falls out.

[Pocket$ $traight]

This would be completely idiotic.

Wouldn't you fire them before the draft and let someone competent pick the players that you are going to make or break your upcoming season!?!?!?!?!?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

This would be completely idiotic.

Wouldn't you fire them before the draft and let someone competent pick the players that you are going to make or break your upcoming season!?!?!?!?!?

You'd think so!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buster

You'd think so!

Not really, firing the entire dept right before the draft is what would be idiotic. It takes time to put a scouting dept together.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not really, firing the entire dept right before the draft is what would be idiotic. It takes time to put a scouting dept together.

Not only that, but everything that those people know about the team's draft strategy will be leaked to the media/other teams.

[FRPLG]

It is hard to establish a scouting dept. It takes literally a year to do it right. They have institutional knowledge and resources that a new group can't just know or have and will need a while to get. To even have a chance at doing this they would have needed to fire everyone the day after the season and hire a new one immediately to be ready for the draft. They didn't and I suspect it was because they came to this decision(if they really did) over a period of time. Same thing happened last year with the Texans keeping Casserely to run the draft and then canning him right after.

[Paintrain]

Pro Football Talk is an embarrasment to informational websites. I think they make half of their stuff up.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

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'SKINS TO CLEAN HOUSE AFTER THE DRAFT?

There's talk in league circles that the Washington Redskins will clean out the personnel department following the 2007 draft.

It's presently unclear whether V.P. of football operations Vinny Cerrato would be caught up in the rumored purge. Cerrato was fired by the team during the failed Marty Schottenheimer experiment, and re-hired after Marty was Schott-canned.

Per the 2006 NFL Record & Fact Book, the front office also includes director of pro personnel Louis Riddick, director of college scouting Scott Campbell, pro scouts Terry Ray and Donnie Warren, college scouts Mike Faulkiner, Tim Gribble, Shemy Schembechler, and Jim Zeches, national scouts Russ Bolinger and Joel Patten, and director of football administrtion Eric Schaffer.

I wonder who people will scapegoat after Vinny is gone?

Well, Well, Well. Apparently PFT stands for "Pilfering From TAFKAS" Let's go back in time a few weeks:

http://www.thewarpath.net/257130-post28.html

"Yes it's Gibbs' job as President to know what's happening as well as Ceratto's (as whatever his title is), but he's certainly getting a lot of his info on players (strengths, weaknesses, etc.) from the scouting department. So, do we have the wrong scouts in place?
Isn't Don Warren a scout?"

http://www.thewarpath.net/259603-post16.html

"I really think the issue is more with scouting than whether or not we have someone who is a "general manager"

[skinsfan_nn]

Not so sure I'm buying this one? They could certainly tiddy up shop, but clean the house.

I'll believe it when I see it.