Is it just me....

Jamaican'Skin · 12-07-2005, 05:49 PM

Or is AP taking a cheap shot at his ex- team?

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When it gets to this time of the year, you tend to look back on the season and realize just how fast it has gone bye. We are sitting real pretty right now, first place in the NFC EAST and controlling our playoff chances. Not like other teams hoping someone loses or whatever. Our team is full of energy right now, everyone wants a piece of the action. Guys are fighting to get to the ball on defensive and on offense guys are fighting over making plays. This is my first time being on this side of the playoff picture because in WASHINGTON we never were winning in DECEMBER. Well I would like to thank all the NY GIANTS fans who have been supportive of us through the season so far and I ask you to continue. Lets get in these playoffs and make some things happen. AP58

FRPLG · 12-07-2005, 05:57 PM

It is a shot. Whether it is cheap or not depends on how you want to take it. He didn't say anything that was patently untrue or even subjective. I dont look at it and say "Man that AP is such a bastard for telling the truth."

railcon56 · 12-07-2005, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

It is a shot. Whether it is cheap or not depends on how you want to take it. He didn't say anything that was patently untrue or even subjective. I dont look at it and say "Man that AP is such a bastard for telling the truth."

Wait till the rematch!!!! The Giants can be beaten and will be!!!

Wanga Skins · 12-07-2005, 05:58 PM

Ta hell wit him!!! He wouldn't even be playing there now with a nice new contract if it wasn't for this team that never won in december!!!

railcon56 · 12-07-2005, 06:00 PM

I saw Tiki Barber say on TV I know i am good let their heads continue to grow... makes them easier to be knocked the f_ck off!!!!

Hog1 · 12-07-2005, 06:00 PM

Walks like A duck, quacks like a duck.........................glad he's gone!

firstdown · 12-07-2005, 06:01 PM

Hell when he was with Washington we were not winning in September, October, or November so why start winning in December.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 12-07-2005, 06:01 PM

Forget AP. We gave that guy his first shot in the NFL. If it wasn't for the Redskins picking him up as a UFA, he'd probably be working for UPS. He left us even though we made what he himself called an offer that was very similar to what the NYG gave him.

VTSkins897 · 12-07-2005, 06:01 PM

i'm heading to that game too! the giants are my least favorite team in the NFL. so i wanna see them get trounced!!!

i'll take any W though...

Redskins_P · 12-07-2005, 06:05 PM

I really don't care about what he says. I mean....its real sad that he has to take shots at his ex team.

He wasn't shit until he came here, and now he's shitting on the Redskins........that bad karma if you ask me.

saskin · 12-07-2005, 07:24 PM

And he claims we disrespected him.....oh well....it'll be that much more sweeter when we beat them!

#56fanatic · 12-08-2005, 09:54 AM

I dont see where its a shot at the team, no more than him telling the truth. We weren't winning, at all. If we were do you think people like him, champ would have wanted out. we are an organization in constant flux. Champ got tired of it, smoot and pierce. Cant blame them. They went to organizations that are stable, year in and year out. With exception to the Vikings, but they seem to have turned things around. We have as well, but we say that every year so what would make them believe that and stay. Lets just focus on making this an organization people want to join because of winning tradition, not because Dan offers you the most money.

onlydarksets · 12-08-2005, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I dont see where its a shot at the team, no more than him telling the truth. We weren't winning, at all. If we were do you think people like him, champ would have wanted out. we are an organization in constant flux. Champ got tired of it, smoot and pierce. Cant blame them. They went to organizations that are stable, year in and year out.

If that were true, I would agree. However, look at the Gyants record over the last 12 years:

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YEAR     RECORD     FINISH              POSTSEASON
2004     6-10-0     T2nd -- NFC East    --
2003     4-12-0     4th -- NFC East     --
2002     10-6-0     2nd -- NFC East     0-1 - Lost Wild Card Playoffs
2001      7-9-0     T3rd -- NFC East    --
2000     12-4-0     1st -- NFC East     2-1 - Lost Superbowl
1999      7-9-0     3rd -- NFC East     --
1998      8-8-0     3rd -- NFC East     --
1997     10-5-1     1st -- NFC East     0-1 - Lost Wild Card Playoffs
1996     6-10-0     5th -- NFC East     --
1995     5-11-0     4th -- NFC East     --
1994      9-7-0     2nd -- NFC East     --

A couple more playoff appearances, but that doesn't look a whole lot different than our record. LOTS of losing seasons, and NO consistency (other than losing).

EDIT: It just occurred to me that maybe you meant that the organization was constant, as opposed to consistently winning. If so, does the consistency of a losing organization really matter?

#56fanatic · 12-08-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by onlydarksets

If that were true, I would agree. However, look at the Gyants record over the last 12 years:

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YEAR RECORD FINISH POSTSEASON
2004 6-10-0 T2nd -- NFC East --
2003 4-12-0 4th -- NFC East --
2002 10-6-0 2nd -- NFC East 0-1 - Lost Wild Card Playoffs
2001 7-9-0 T3rd -- NFC East --
2000 12-4-0 1st -- NFC East 2-1 - Lost Superbowl
1999 7-9-0 3rd -- NFC East --
1998 8-8-0 3rd -- NFC East --
1997 10-5-1 1st -- NFC East 0-1 - Lost Wild Card Playoffs
1996 6-10-0 5th -- NFC East --
1995 5-11-0 4th -- NFC East --
1994 9-7-0 2nd -- NFC East --

A couple more playoff appearances, but that doesn't look a whole lot different than our record. LOTS of losing seasons, and NO consistency (other than losing).

How many head coaching changes with the Giants compared to the Redskins? Two to five or six. The organization as a whole is what I am referring to. However, the Giants have gone to the playoffs 3 times compared to our 1. One superbowl compared to our ZERO!! I'd say they have had better years since 97 than we have.

railcon56 · 12-07-2005, 06:18 PM

Yep Bulletin board material hopefully they will keep talking plenty of shit..by gametime the Team will be like Mad Dogs.....

12-07-2005, 05:57 PM	#2
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Is it just me.... It is a shot. Whether it is cheap or not depends on how you want to take it. He didn't say anything that was patently untrue or even subjective. I dont look at it and say "Man that AP is such a bastard for telling the truth."

12-07-2005, 05:58 PM	#4
Wanga Skins Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Westminster, MD Age: 45 Posts: 135	Re: Is it just me.... Ta hell wit him!!! He wouldn't even be playing there now with a nice new contract if it wasn't for this team that never won in december!!!

12-07-2005, 06:00 PM	#6
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Is it just me.... Walks like A duck, quacks like a duck.........................glad he's gone! __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

12-07-2005, 06:01 PM	#7
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: Is it just me.... Hell when he was with Washington we were not winning in September, October, or November so why start winning in December.

12-07-2005, 06:01 PM	#8
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Is it just me.... Forget AP. We gave that guy his first shot in the NFL. If it wasn't for the Redskins picking him up as a UFA, he'd probably be working for UPS. He left us even though we made what he himself called an offer that was very similar to what the NYG gave him.

12-07-2005, 06:00 PM	#5
railcon56 Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 922	Re: Is it just me.... I saw Tiki Barber say on TV I know i am good let their heads continue to grow... makes them easier to be knocked the f_ck off!!!! __________________ Run or Pass and Score ..We Want Alot More!!!!

12-07-2005, 06:01 PM	#9
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 41 Posts: 890	Re: Is it just me.... i'm heading to that game too! the giants are my least favorite team in the NFL. so i wanna see them get trounced!!! i'll take any W though...

12-07-2005, 06:05 PM	#10
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Is it just me.... I really don't care about what he says. I mean....its real sad that he has to take shots at his ex team. He wasn't shit until he came here, and now he's shitting on the Redskins........that bad karma if you ask me.

12-07-2005, 07:24 PM	#11
saskin Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Antonio Age: 36 Posts: 355	Re: Is it just me.... And he claims we disrespected him.....oh well....it'll be that much more sweeter when we beat them!

12-08-2005, 09:54 AM	#12
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 50 Posts: 1,801	Re: Is it just me.... I dont see where its a shot at the team, no more than him telling the truth. We weren't winning, at all. If we were do you think people like him, champ would have wanted out. we are an organization in constant flux. Champ got tired of it, smoot and pierce. Cant blame them. They went to organizations that are stable, year in and year out. With exception to the Vikings, but they seem to have turned things around. We have as well, but we say that every year so what would make them believe that and stay. Lets just focus on making this an organization people want to join because of winning tradition, not because Dan offers you the most money.

12-07-2005, 06:18 PM	#15
railcon56 Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 922	Re: Is it just me.... Yep Bulletin board material hopefully they will keep talking plenty of shit..by gametime the Team will be like Mad Dogs..... __________________ Run or Pass and Score ..We Want Alot More!!!!

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