Smithsonian Museum - yet another thread on team name

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

BHA, you don't find the name offensive or one that merits a debate even?

No, and No.

The issue has been debated for decades. There's nothing new to discuss. There are no new arguments to be made. We're in a part of the off-season where there is almost nothing of note to discuss, and i'm still not interested in having an actual discusion about the issue.

Edit - I see a poll was added to the discussion. I will not vote on issue because i dont think it merits a vote.

[12thMan]

So because it's been debated for 20 years means it's not worthy of debate now? Not following that logic.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

So because it's been debated for 20 years means it's not worthy of debate now? Not following that logic.

Its called beating a dead horse, and is a pretty common concept.

[CultBrennan59]

And here I thought we were going to talk about all the boring art at the Smithsonian that we saw on our class field trip to DC

[firstdown]

Did anyone even listen in to their convention?

[Chico23231]

who voted they should change their name? and why?

[Monkeydad]

I vote for automatic bans for any Redskins "fan" who says yes.


Step up, you two.

[DynamiteRave]

So if we change our name, then the Indians and the Braves are gonna be next? Right? Right?!

If not then everyone really needs to let this go. They find the Redskins offensive but they don't find this offensive?!



The hat is actually called the "Screaming Savage"

Can't make this stuff up.

[Daseal]

I highly suggest some people read the link posted at the bottom of my post. It is really an excellent read about an issue that plagues our team. Here is a quick excerpt:

Goddard shows that the term redskin is a translation from native American languages of a term used by native Americans for themselves. Harjo's claim that it "had its origins in the practice of presenting bloody red skins and scalps as proof of Indian kill for bounty payments" is unsupported by any evidence.⁴ The term entered popular usage via the novels of James Fenimore Cooper. In the early- to mid-nineteenth century the term was neutral, not pejorative, and indeed was often used in contexts in which whites spoke of Indians in positive terms. Goddard concludes:


Cooper's use of redskin as a Native American in-group term was entirely authentic, reflecting both the accurate perception of the Indian self-image and the evolving respect among whites for the Indians' distinct cultural perspective, whatever its prospects. The descent of this word into obloquy is a phenomenon of more recent times.

Language Log: The Origin of Redskin

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

So if we change our name, then the Indians and the Braves are gonna be next? Right? Right?!

If not then everyone really needs to let this go. They find the Redskins offensive but they don't find this offensive?!



The hat is actually called the "Screaming Savage"

Can't make this stuff up.

Funny you mention the word savage. I graduated college from SOSU and we were the Savages. Now they are the Savage Storm.Really come on now.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

By the way, I agree with everyone here.

Beware my wrath...Your name....Offends!
you'll hear from my scribe......
--Archimedes

[firstdown]

There next segment is on the Redskins. Should be fun to watch.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Krusheasy

The Smithsonian's National Museum of the American Indian @SmithsonianNMAI is hosting a symposium today, Feb 7 10:15-5:45, to change the Redskins mascot. Link to watch on @Ustream Smithsonian American Indian Museum on USTREAM: The National Museum of the American Indian is the first national museum dedicated to the preservation, stud...

Pretty sure this is going to be a one sided discussion. Mike Wise will be among the speakers. If anyone plans on attending give him a big hug for me.

People need to stop being so politically correct, stop letting petty issues upset them, and find something more important to occupy their time like fighting to keep the government from taking away our rights or advocating for Obama to release his records so this whole issue of whether he is or is not elligible to hold office can get resolved.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Its called beating a dead horse, and is a pretty common concept.

How about that CAP penalty? lol

[budw38]

How about ..... the Washington Drones . The team motto " we seak and destroy " eagles , cowboys and dirty little giants ! Im so good