Smithsonian Museum - yet another thread on team name

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by irish

I think when the name finally does change it wont be in reaction to a lawsuit or court case because the team and the NFL will not want it to look like they have been forced into the change, they will want it to appear that the change was made on their own terms. Much like women members at Augusta National, one morning we are going to wake up one morning and hear hear the announcement. It will get a lot of play for a day and then be no big deal. Augusta did it on their terms and so will the Skins & the NFL.

As for team names I'd really like Americans or or maybe Hogs.

It will never happen but I think if it ever did, the name should be Washington Pigskins. Similar to our current name but is football related. That is unless the United Pig Processors Union finds it offensive and brings suit.

Or just simply the Washington Skins. Lots of people already call us the "Skins" for short.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I said it once before and will say it again.

I doubt very seriously that the individual who owned the team in 1933 and changed the name from the Boston Braves to the Boston Redskins did it with the intent to use the term negatively. The name change came about, I believe, so that the baseball team and football team would not have the same names. Then the team moved to Washington and took on the name Washington Redskins.

I also doubt very seriously the NFL itself would associate itself with a team that carried a negative conotation to any group of people or individual. The intent of the name is not negative but instead positive. Honestly, the American Indian's should flip their ideals, get off their "politically correct" stance and adopt and rally around the Washington Redskins and support the fact that few Pro teams are named after them or even support their cause. From government all the way down to the fellow man we hear hardly a thing about the Indian other then in our history books on how the white man over ran them and took their land and failed to reimburse them for it. Oh and put them on reservations.

Atleast someone is honoring them.

Thats a very good point. the overwhelming majority of native americans polled did not find the name offensive. Perhaps Snyder could counteract some of this criticism by actively supporting native american causes and garnering support from Native Americans. I think its "noble" that the Redskins honor a minority that's been trampled on throughout modern history by using Native Americans as the name/logo for its team. What other team does that? The Titans honor ancient mythological gods. Several NFL teams honor wildlife. The Bucs and Vikings honor violent races/criminals from history. criticize those teams and leave us the eff alone.

[Glasgow Celtic]

I'm just offended that people are offended about this.

Must............get............out................ .more. :what:

[irish]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

It will never happen but I think if it ever did, the name should be Washington Pigskins. Similar to our current name but is football related. That is unless the United Pig Processors Union finds it offensive and brings suit.

Or just simply the Washington Skins. Lots of people already call us the "Skins" for short.

I also agree that when name was changed to Redskins back in the day it wasnt meant as a slur but times change and now it is viewed as a slur so for better or worse its going to change. My wallet is hoping it happens in the next 5 years.

When the name changes I dont expect it to be anything close to the word Redskins or have anything to do with Native Americans. It wont have Skin in it and I dont see it being Warrior or Braves either. That said I do think the name Pigskins is clever.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by irish

I also agree that when name was changed to Redskins back in the day it wasnt meant as a slur but times change and now it is viewed as a slur so for better or worse its going to change. My wallet is hoping it happens in the next 5 years.

When the name changes I dont expect it to be anything close to the word Redskins or have anything to do with Native Americans. It wont have Skin in it and I dont see it being Warrior or Braves either. That said I do think the name Pigskins is clever.

Agreed, but I think they could still go with Warriors while avoiding any NA iconography. Golden State (NBA) and my old high school did the same thing.
Not that it would happen, but I remember thinking a few years ago, right around when the movie 300 was released, that an Ancient Greek or Roman warrior would be pretty badass mascot and it would sort of make sense with the architecture of DC.



Then again, I guess people of Greek or Roman descent would eventually start complaining... shit

[CrustyRedskin]

Does Pale Moon still sing the National Anthem a Redskins games?? If not they should get her back.

[SkinzWin]

And the hits keep on coming. This thing really seems like its picking up steam in the media. This article's author lambasts the Redskins saying it is immoral about every way imaginable. If the team name does get changed, do I get credit for coming up with the name Washington Pigskins?

History alone should prompt Washington to change NFL mascot - ESPN

[troy]

Jim vance did a segment on channel 4 about wanting the redskins to change their name. I read that dan synder has a patient on the name "warriors". They have been playing with different uniforms over the past few seasons as well. Keep the name redskins and go back to the uniforms from the 80's & 90's. Just my opinion

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

And the hits keep on coming. This thing really seems like its picking up steam in the media. This article's author lambasts the Redskins saying it is immoral about every way imaginable. If the team name does get changed, do I get credit for coming up with the name Washington Pigskins?

History alone should prompt Washington to change NFL mascot - ESPN

That's an old artical just reprinted.

[firstdown]

I heard all the convicts in jail are offended by the name steelers.

[irish]

Originally Posted by troy

Jim vance did a segment on channel 4 about wanting the redskins to change their name. I read that dan synder has a patient on the name "warriors". They have been playing with different uniforms over the past few seasons as well. Keep the name redskins and go back to the uniforms from the 80's & 90's. Just my opinion

If you notice when you watch, Jim Vance doesnt say Redskins. He dances around it but doesnt say it. Sally Jenkins has an article about the name in today's Wash Post.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by troy

Keep the name redskins and go back to the uniforms from the 80's & 90's. Just my opinion

Ummm, What?





So basically you just want to change the pants?

[MTK]

Clearly the pants are the problem behind this name thing. Oh the socks too, don't forget about the socks.

[donofriose]

Saw the link on ESPN, was going to post it before I saw someone else posted it but are cowboys offended by Dallas? This is a question I have always pondered.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Clearly the pants are the problem behind this name thing. Oh the socks too, don't forget about the socks.

It will cost a couple of thousand if you don't have the right socks and wear them the right way.