Smithsonian Museum - yet another thread on team name

[Krusheasy]

The Smithsonian's National Museum of the American Indian @SmithsonianNMAI is hosting a symposium today, Feb 7 10:15-5:45, to change the Redskins mascot. Link to watch on @Ustream Smithsonian American Indian Museum on USTREAM: The National Museum of the American Indian is the first national museum dedicated to the preservation, stud...

Pretty sure this is going to be a one sided discussion. Mike Wise will be among the speakers. If anyone plans on attending give him a big hug for me.

[mooby]

Yay, another name-change debate. We haven't had enough of those over the years.

/sarcasm.

[irish]

There's an editorial in today's Wash Post about the logo and I saw that Channel 4 is doing a poll to see if people think the name should be changed. I really think this could be the beginning of the end for the Redskins name and logo.

[irish]

I said editorial and I mis-spoke. Its a column by Robert McCarthy. He says he's a season ticket holder.

[firstdown]

Looks like another hand full of people trying to make this happen. I bet they have a problem with the live feed because so few people show up. I heard they ordered one porta poty for the event.

[Chico23231]

Mike Wise is a f*cking douchebag, wanna-be-on tv jouranlist. Tony Kornheiser wanna be bitch. Washington DC sports journalism/radio media has got to be some of the worst in the country hands down. Thank god for John Keim keeping it real.

[firstdown]

They have a conversation section where you can talk to the other person probably me watching.

[firstdown]

I listened for a few minutes and after hearing the applause my guess is they have more people on the panel then in the audience.

[MTK]

The name isn't changing. Nothing to see here folks, move along.

[NC_Skins]

I'd rather talk about the merits of the NFL super bowl halftime show. Ughhhh....

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I feel like one of these threads pops up every month when some new article comes out by some bored sports-writer who is too lazy to think of something else to write about.

There are segments of the population who probably have some kind of forum or prostest or whatever regarding the team name every week. Nothing new to see or discuss and im glad to see no one is bothering to debate the issue here. It does not merit discussion, only dismissal.

[12thMan]

BHA, you don't find the name offensive or one that merits a debate even?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

BHA, you don't find the name offensive or one that merits a debate even?

This "debate" has been what, 20+ years in the making? Gotta think if it had real merit something would have changed by now.

Goodell was asked about it at the SB and he basically shrugged it off as no big deal. Doesn't seem to be an issue on his radar.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

This "debate" has been what, 20+ years in the making? Gotta think if it had real merit something would have changed by now.

Goodell was asked about it at the SB and he basically shrugged it off as no big deal. Doesn't seem to be an issue on his radar.

I suspect Goodell shrugged it off because it was something he didnt want to deal with during SB week but I am sure its on his radar.

I dont have a problem with the name Redskins and I dont care if they change it or not, but I do think that the fact the debate has been going on so long means it does still have some merit. Just because something is debated over many years without a resolution doesnt mean something wont change in the future and anyone who thinks the name isnt going to change at some point is fooling themselves. The name will be changed in the next 5 years.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by irish

I suspect Goodell shrugged it off because it was something he didnt want to deal with during SB week but I am sure its on his radar.

I dont have a problem with the name Redskins and I dont care if they change it or not, but I do think that the fact the debate has been going on so long means it does still have some merit. Just because something is debated over many years without a resolution doesnt mean something wont change in the future and anyone who thinks the name isnt going to change at some point is fooling themselves. The name will be changed in the next 5 years.

I tend to agree with this. I mean, would a change to something like Warriors really be that big of a deal? Hell, you wouldn't have to change much of Hail to the Redskins to get to Hail to the Warrirors. That might be the only changed required.

I, personally, voted for 'yes.' Half because I'm sick of hearing about the name and half because the name is considered offensive. At this stage, I'm somewhat resigned to the fact that it's going to change and I'm pretty much fine with that.

Does this change anyone's opinion?

George Preston Marshall: The guy that gave the Redskins their nickname was the same owner who was last to integrate African Americans into his team. That's downright embarrassing and will always be a black eye on our organization. It's hard for me to defend a nickname when the original Redskins owner has a history of racism. From a NY Times 2011 article, "As his second head coach, Marshall hired William "Lone Star" Dietz, a journeyman coach at the collegiate level whose mother was most likely a Sioux. It was in "honor" of Dietz, who coached the team for just two seasons and who at Marshall's urging willingly put on war paint and Indian feathers before home games, that Marshall changed the team's name to the Redskins. " Anything that distances our franchise from the beliefs of this guy I'm OK with.

Hogs Haven

It didn't change mine, but I never had a strong opinion one one way or another. I personally, won't be changing my allegiance if they do change their name. I root for the team/organization/players, the name doesn't make much of a difference. Now, of course, there are plenty of names I wouldn't like, but I also don't feel the need to get my panties in a wad just because this is being discussed.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the name, but the fact that a. some people do and b. Webster's defines it as:

noun Slang: Often Disparaging and Offensive.
a North American Indian.

I can see why some people are calling for a name change.