Patten on Ramsey

offiss · 07-25-2005, 11:22 PM

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Redskins WR David Patten, telling PFW the differences he has noticed so far between Tom Brady and Patrick Ramsey: "[Ramsey] has all the capabilities. It's just a matter of him taking hold of them. I was telling Pat, when I see him, I see Tom Brady four or five years ago. Pat has that same command; he takes charge of the huddle. Tom just has that knack; he can make any throw. Patrick has such a strong arm. It's just going to come down to him developing that touch."

Nice compliment for our bot Ramsey, I believe he will take that step this season and become an elite QB in the NFL.

SmootSmack · 07-25-2005, 11:35 PM

And then he'll make room for Jason "Canton" Campbell! Offiss' favorite Skins draft pick ever, haha!

Seriously though, there are really no excuses left for Ramsey this year and I fully expect him to step up and have a big year. And Patten will play a big part in getting him there.

I'm thinking 20-25 TDs 10-12 INTs

saden1 · 07-26-2005, 01:59 AM

If Ramsey doesn't take the step this year he will never take it. Sorry folks, it's step up or bust year for him...forever a career backup!

MTK · 07-26-2005, 08:14 AM

I've got a good feeling about PR this year, it's his time to shine.

TheMalcolmConnection · 07-26-2005, 08:24 AM

I do too. People won't just be making up what they've seen at camp.

Schneed10 · 07-26-2005, 08:42 AM

PR can be a playmaker this year instead of just being a serviceable QB. He has red zone targets in Cooley and Royal, deep threats in Patten and Moss, a game-breaking RB in Portis, a tough between-the-tackles runner in Betts, a healthy Jon Jansen, and a year in Gibbs' system. I can see him performing well, I think this year he can make some serious plays.

Defensewins · 07-26-2005, 08:48 AM

He better, we have run out of excuses for him.
Besides his level of play, the play of the offensive line will be the biggest factor for Ramsey. If the line can generate a strong running game and give him time to throw, Ramsey's job will be much easier.
Sort of like what happened to Rypien in 1992. Rypien had so much time he could eat a ham sandwich behind the hogs and still throw deep the WR's.

GoSkins! · 07-26-2005, 09:52 AM

I think that we are going to see a real commander in the huddle this year. It will be the first time in a long time. Now that Pat will know where his dump off passes are, he will be more relaxed about reading the field and going for the long ball. Guys are right, it's time for him to step up!

Redskins_P · 07-26-2005, 10:03 AM

If Ramsey can stay healthy and our running game gets better this year, I see him having his best year. Theres no excuse for him. The o-line should be improved with Rabach, and Jansen, and now he has receivers that can get open with their speed.

MTK · 07-26-2005, 10:03 AM

If Ramsey can't get it done this year, it's definitely time to move on.

He should have a great running game behind him, a very good offensive line in front of him, and plenty of speed and experience at WR.

Plus it's his 2nd season in this system, we saw what happened in his 2nd season in Spurrier's system, he was leading the league in passing yards after the first 4 weeks of the season until the constant pounding caught up with him.

firstdown · 07-26-2005, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If Ramsey can't get it done this year, it's definitely time to move on.

He should have a great running game behind him, a very good offensive line in front of him, and plenty of speed and experience at WR.

Plus it's his 2nd season in this system, we saw what happened in his 2nd season in Spurrier's system, he was leading the league in passing yards after the first 4 weeks of the season until the constant pounding caught up with him.

I agee on the pounding he has taken as a QB. Some of that is his own fault for holding on to the ball to long. Hopefully he is in a position now to make quicker reads and get rid of the ball. Weather its dumping the pass off, throwing long or just throwing it away he must make the quicker read. I think in his past three years he was thinking his way through and not playing by his ability and instincts. Last year in the last couple of games he looked more relaxed and I feel it will carry over to this year. Lets all just cross our fingers and hope that PR is the man.

BossHog · 07-26-2005, 10:25 AM

I just like the fact that he's been wth us for this long and has played a lot of games. We're a better team with him and Campbell will get his chance later down the road.

MTK · 07-26-2005, 10:59 AM

One of PR's flaws is definitely his knack for holding on to the ball too long, but it seems that's the way he's learned how to play QB.

At Tulane he had a sive for an offensive line and he had to hold on to the ball for as long as possible to let his guys get open... he comes to the NFL and again has a sive for an offensive line and a system that stresses the deep ball and again he's forced to hold on to the ball for as long as possible.

Hopefully he can continue to unlearn this style of play and be smarter with the ball by dumping it off, throwing it away, etc.

Duffman003 · 07-26-2005, 11:14 AM

I've said that PR should be a good quarterback for the past two years, now I don't know what would have happened if he started last year but in the Old Ball Coach's second year he didn't live up to the potential.

backrow · 07-26-2005, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

He was leading the league in passing yards after the first 4 weeks of the season until the constant pounding caught up with him.

I knew about the pounding, but did not realize he had led the league!

07-25-2005, 11:22 PM	#1
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Patten on Ramsey ESPN Redskins WR David Patten, telling PFW the differences he has noticed so far between Tom Brady and Patrick Ramsey: "[Ramsey] has all the capabilities. It's just a matter of him taking hold of them. I was telling Pat, when I see him, I see Tom Brady four or five years ago. Pat has that same command; he takes charge of the huddle. Tom just has that knack; he can make any throw. Patrick has such a strong arm. It's just going to come down to him developing that touch." Nice compliment for our bot Ramsey, I believe he will take that step this season and become an elite QB in the NFL.

07-25-2005, 11:35 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Patton on Ramsey And then he'll make room for Jason "Canton" Campbell! Offiss' favorite Skins draft pick ever, haha! Seriously though, there are really no excuses left for Ramsey this year and I fully expect him to step up and have a big year. And Patten will play a big part in getting him there. I'm thinking 20-25 TDs 10-12 INTs __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-26-2005, 01:59 AM	#3
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Patton on Ramsey If Ramsey doesn't take the step this year he will never take it. Sorry folks, it's step up or bust year for him...forever a career backup!

07-26-2005, 08:14 AM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,749	Re: Patton on Ramsey I've got a good feeling about PR this year, it's his time to shine. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-26-2005, 08:24 AM	#5
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,259	Re: Patton on Ramsey I do too. People won't just be making up what they've seen at camp. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

07-26-2005, 08:42 AM	#6
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,439	Re: Patton on Ramsey PR can be a playmaker this year instead of just being a serviceable QB. He has red zone targets in Cooley and Royal, deep threats in Patten and Moss, a game-breaking RB in Portis, a tough between-the-tackles runner in Betts, a healthy Jon Jansen, and a year in Gibbs' system. I can see him performing well, I think this year he can make some serious plays.

07-26-2005, 08:48 AM	#7
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,760	Re: Patton on Ramsey He better, we have run out of excuses for him. Besides his level of play, the play of the offensive line will be the biggest factor for Ramsey. If the line can generate a strong running game and give him time to throw, Ramsey's job will be much easier. Sort of like what happened to Rypien in 1992. Rypien had so much time he could eat a ham sandwich behind the hogs and still throw deep the WR's.

07-26-2005, 09:52 AM	#8
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	Re: Patton on Ramsey I think that we are going to see a real commander in the huddle this year. It will be the first time in a long time. Now that Pat will know where his dump off passes are, he will be more relaxed about reading the field and going for the long ball. Guys are right, it's time for him to step up! __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

07-26-2005, 10:03 AM	#9
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Patton on Ramsey If Ramsey can stay healthy and our running game gets better this year, I see him having his best year. Theres no excuse for him. The o-line should be improved with Rabach, and Jansen, and now he has receivers that can get open with their speed.

07-26-2005, 10:03 AM	#10
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,749	Re: Patton on Ramsey If Ramsey can't get it done this year, it's definitely time to move on. He should have a great running game behind him, a very good offensive line in front of him, and plenty of speed and experience at WR. Plus it's his 2nd season in this system, we saw what happened in his 2nd season in Spurrier's system, he was leading the league in passing yards after the first 4 weeks of the season until the constant pounding caught up with him. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-26-2005, 10:25 AM	#12
BossHog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 665	Re: Patton on Ramsey I just like the fact that he's been wth us for this long and has played a lot of games. We're a better team with him and Campbell will get his chance later down the road.

07-26-2005, 10:59 AM	#13
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,749	Re: Patton on Ramsey One of PR's flaws is definitely his knack for holding on to the ball too long, but it seems that's the way he's learned how to play QB. At Tulane he had a sive for an offensive line and he had to hold on to the ball for as long as possible to let his guys get open... he comes to the NFL and again has a sive for an offensive line and a system that stresses the deep ball and again he's forced to hold on to the ball for as long as possible. Hopefully he can continue to unlearn this style of play and be smarter with the ball by dumping it off, throwing it away, etc. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-26-2005, 11:14 AM	#14
Duffman003 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 602	Re: Patton on Ramsey I've said that PR should be a good quarterback for the past two years, now I don't know what would have happened if he started last year but in the Old Ball Coach's second year he didn't live up to the potential.

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