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Old 08-03-2012, 12:38 AM   #187
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Re: North Carolina passes same-sex marriage ban

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Originally Posted by mlmpetert View Post
Im not saying anything about people being forced to move from one place to another or not be protected at all costs when attacked. And I HATE Iran. But only because Fox told me too.
Not sure why the hate for Iran. Did you know that Iran was once a country on the rise in terms of civilization, much like we were back in the 60's and 70s?

Iran in 1960s and 1970s « News About Iran

Our CIA and foreign policy put a stop to all that. That is something Fox News isn't going to tell you.



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Youre not hearing (reading?) what im saying (typing?).

Me:

If the state has taken custody of a kid, via foster care or some other means, it has the responsibility to protect the welfare the child above everything else before remitting control, even if it means compromising the liberty of others. The kids liberty comes first and above all other involved parties.

Examples:

A couple wants to adopt a little kid via public adoption.

Reasons to exercise caution:

1) The person/couple is gay and lives in Greenville NC

2) The person/couple has a pool or train tracks in their back yard

3) The person/couple lives in a particularly dangerous area and refuses to move


4) The person/couple lives with a felon


5) The person/couple practices a religion that excludes certain types of medial treatment

6) The person/couple wants to use the child as a spokes model to fight bigotry

Reasons not to to use additional caution:

1) The immediate and foreseeable living conditions of the person/couple present no obvious "adversity" or harm to the child
Three out of your six are legitimate concerns I suppose, but the other three are equivalent to playing the straw man card. Nobody is going to get a kid to fight bigotry, they have protests and other legal actions for that. No need to get a kid who's going to create a ton of expense to champion the cause. Number one is so far off base and out of touch with the reality of things. Again, racism is still alive and deep rooted in the south so would they let any family adopt a black kid in Greenville, NC because of the potential hostility and racism shown? They aren't going to base adoption of something such as that. You are basically suggesting what I mentioned prior.
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