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SBXVII · 12-15-2011, 11:08 AM

mlmpetert,

You'd be supprised what the illegals get. Personally all our relatives were illegal or immagrents but at this point in time there are laws against simply walking into this country with out permission and staying longer then your allowed to. For me the bigger issues are;

1- are they paying into Social Security and Medicade? If they are being paid under the table as most are so the business does not have to report them or get into trouble for hiring illegals then what happens to the illegals when they are too old to work or are in their 60', 70's or 80's and need medical attention? Who's paying that? We are. You and me. They pocketed their money early and when their too old to work the rest of us who did pay into the system will be supporting them.

2- I'm a citizen. I assume most of us here are. Whether you were born here or not you are or have gotten your citizenship. What benifits do you have over some one who is not a citizen? I'll tell you, as of right now there is only one benifit that I know of. Maybe there are more and I'm missing them but I know of one. You can vote. Woo hoo. I've always felt their was a big difference between Citizen rights and Human rights. Being a Citizen gives you all the benifits of the Constitution, Human rights simply means we won't let you bleed to death, or die due to lack of medical attention. But no, people have muddied the waters and legal or illegal you get all benifits of the constitution, except voting because you have to register which means you have to prove your a legal citizen.

12-15-2011, 11:08 AM	#54
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Whats Fair When it Comes to Taxes? mlmpetert, You'd be supprised what the illegals get. Personally all our relatives were illegal or immagrents but at this point in time there are laws against simply walking into this country with out permission and staying longer then your allowed to. For me the bigger issues are; 1- are they paying into Social Security and Medicade? If they are being paid under the table as most are so the business does not have to report them or get into trouble for hiring illegals then what happens to the illegals when they are too old to work or are in their 60', 70's or 80's and need medical attention? Who's paying that? We are. You and me. They pocketed their money early and when their too old to work the rest of us who did pay into the system will be supporting them. 2- I'm a citizen. I assume most of us here are. Whether you were born here or not you are or have gotten your citizenship. What benifits do you have over some one who is not a citizen? I'll tell you, as of right now there is only one benifit that I know of. Maybe there are more and I'm missing them but I know of one. You can vote. Woo hoo. I've always felt their was a big difference between Citizen rights and Human rights. Being a Citizen gives you all the benifits of the Constitution, Human rights simply means we won't let you bleed to death, or die due to lack of medical attention. But no, people have muddied the waters and legal or illegal you get all benifits of the constitution, except voting because you have to register which means you have to prove your a legal citizen.