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Originally Posted by 30gut
I think if people are honest with themselves its kinda obvious that Cam Newton is a first round talent.
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Not even remotely true. I put Cam Newton on the same lines as Tim Tebow. Tebow was a slated 3-4 round talent at the QB level. It's the exact reason why he really came back to college instead of opting for the pros.
Tebow to gauge NFL draft prospects - NCAA Football - Sporting News
Guess what? Nothing much changed that following year at Florida either and his stock was still at a 3-4 round QB talent with much "upside" and "talent" as Cam Newron would be. That doesn't mean some idiot Coach/GM isn't going to take him. That idiot in Denver (McDaniels) selected him in the first and he didn't even make it through the season before he was fired. Denver is still looking for a QB as they've already named Orton the starter.
Denver Broncos Coach Fox Names Orton Starter... for Now | Bleacher Report
If you want a true professional's opinion, then try Mayock's.
Newton's media workout was more sizzle than steak - Shutdown Corner - NFL*Blog - Yahoo! Sports
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"I really didn't need to see the workout, nor do I need to hear about the workout because I can tell you what that workout entails. I've watched five of his game tapes, he's got a classic over-hand delivery, he's got a big arm. You and I in gym shorts at the local high school can throw pretty accurately, so I would guarantee you he would look great in a pair of gym shorts, he would throw with accuracy and arm strength. His mechanics are very good but I would also [offer] one cautionary note, and that is the best pro day for a quarterback I ever attended was JaMarcus Russell(notes). That same day, even though I admitted it was the best pro day I ever saw, I also said I wouldn't take him in the first round. For me, it's not about him throwing in shorts; it's about a lot of other things.
"A choreographed day like today is fine, but the NFL is not really even allowed to be there so they're looking at the clips, the same that you and I are. They want to see him throw the ball at the Combine with the other quarterbacks, and then they want to see him at the Auburn pro day. And even then, that's really not going to tell the tale because he's going to throw the football beautifully in those controlled environments. To me, there are two issues with this kid. Issue No. 1 is he came out of a shotgun [formation], and if you watch the tape it's basically a very simple offense. One read and either the ball was out or he was out. Can he adapt to, can he process and assimilate a very structured and complex pro offense against a complex pro defense? And secondly, and most importantly, when you get to a certain skill level in the NFL, which this kid certainly has, at the quarterback position what kind of kid is he? Is he going to be the first guy in the building? Is he a gym rat? Is he football smart? Is he a leader of men? All of those things to me are way more important than any workout in shorts."
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I suggest you fans sit back and remove the hype from a player. Based off of talent at the QB spot alone, he's not a 1st round grade. If you want to base it off "upside" and "potential", then ANYBODY can be a first round grade. First round grades are for guys that are supposed to be impact players from the get go, not for guys that have huge upsides that require a lot of coaching/teaching to perform. If you are having to teach a player mechanics and throwing motion and footwork, chances are he shouldn't be a first round grade. We won't even throw in the "character" issues at risk here as well, which he's failed miserably.