[over the mountain]

yes, a pedophile by definition cannnot help themselves. but i wasnt saying vick = a pedophile. all i was saying is the focus should be on the person and their acts, not the victims. i was posting to point out that i dont think the focus should be on what value a dog has in our society.

whatever thoo, to each his own. im not going to be dismissive of what certain other posters think.