[sportscurmudgeon]

BossHOg:

I agree with you. Here's the kind of player that drives me nuts:

You see a guy with huge levels of natrual God-given athletic abilities and then he demonstrates that he will take advice from no one. He knows everything he needs to know already and he'll do things the way it's cool for him to do them.

To use your example, suppose Dwight Freeney wouldn't take coaching from Dungy or whomever? Would he be as good as he is? NO. Would he still have those prodigious physical gifts? Yes.