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Old 04-12-2008, 01:22 AM   #289
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Re: Ted Nugent on Gun Control

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
But you don't do all that to the dog before he pees on the carpet do you? You're not shoving his nose in the carpet just because

I think that's what SGG is trying to say
I see his point, this is what he said:
Punishment reacts to the problem, it doesn't prevent it.
He is correct in saying punishment reacts to a problem. However I am saying that punishment prevents problems. We are already having the problem, so the only way to really stop it is to show that we are willing to punish it, and create fear so that the problem does not occur again.
It's not like we're trying to prevent something from EVER occuring, it already is. Since it's not stopping (I believe partly cause of weak punishments) the punishments needs to get severe in order to put fear into the people who are doing the acts.
My dogs fear the beatings, therefore they do their dirty business outside. If I didn't beat on them when they peed on the carpet, they would not have stopped.
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