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SkinsRock · 10-19-2004, 03:15 PM

Brunell has 3 INTs and 6 fumbles, 4 of which were lost. So Brute44 is right in saying there are 7 turnovers total, but the error is understandable.
That fumble in the Bucs game WAS Brunell's fault. It was supposed to be a handoff, and the RB does not look the ball in on a handoff, he should be looking ahead. Brunell was tripped by a lineman, and still tried to get it to him when he should have just eaten it and take the sack. He admitted this after the game.
As far as other ones, yeah a blindside sack/fumble or a tipped ball aren't really a QB's fault, but they are still charged against them. Same with when a receiver runs the wrong route. So I guess both Brunell AND Ramsey should get passes for some of their TO's, huh? No, that's not how it's done. They are held responsible, whether they really are or not. So, Brunell is directly responsible for 21 points scored by the opposing defense in three games. I agree that any other time, the D could have stopped them, but didn't. Thanks to that D (and Portis), we have actually won 2 of those 3 games.
The one other fumble ran back for a TD (in the Giants game) was from a Portis fumble....just mentioning that because some of us tend to think all of them were Brunell (myself included).

10-19-2004, 03:15 PM	#63
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	Brunell has 3 INTs and 6 fumbles, 4 of which were lost. So Brute44 is right in saying there are 7 turnovers total, but the error is understandable. That fumble in the Bucs game WAS Brunell's fault. It was supposed to be a handoff, and the RB does not look the ball in on a handoff, he should be looking ahead. Brunell was tripped by a lineman, and still tried to get it to him when he should have just eaten it and take the sack. He admitted this after the game. As far as other ones, yeah a blindside sack/fumble or a tipped ball aren't really a QB's fault, but they are still charged against them. Same with when a receiver runs the wrong route. So I guess both Brunell AND Ramsey should get passes for some of their TO's, huh? No, that's not how it's done. They are held responsible, whether they really are or not. So, Brunell is directly responsible for 21 points scored by the opposing defense in three games. I agree that any other time, the D could have stopped them, but didn't. Thanks to that D (and Portis), we have actually won 2 of those 3 games. The one other fumble ran back for a TD (in the Giants game) was from a Portis fumble....just mentioning that because some of us tend to think all of them were Brunell (myself included).