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Old 10-19-2004, 01:21 PM   #62
Brute44
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Originally Posted by That Guy
yet brunell has given up 28 points by himself and ramsey has given up none...

brunell has 3 ints, but NINE TURNOVERS. The numbers aren't as good as you think, and that was ramsey put in 14 points down and pressing. Its not a fair example, and you can go back to last year and see he's got more talent at this point.
First off Brunell has had SEVEN TURNOVERS NOT NINE. lets start with the first fumble back in the Tampa game. The ball was handed off to Portis which he fumbled because he wasn't even looking for the ball which Barber recovered and went 9 yards to score. Brunell was accused of a bad hand off. Portis was not charged with a single fumble in the Tampa Bay game. You figure that one out. Now lets move to the Giants game. Brunell was sacked at our 40 and fumbled to Strahan. The very next play Warner threw a 38 yard TD pass to Carter. I don't know how you can put that one on Brunell when Bowen got beat badly on the play. Later on Brunell threw his first INT at our 39 to Robbins which was originally intended for Portis. There was a 4 play drive that our defense stopped and the Giants scored a field goal. So we'll play your game and say at this point Brunell has given up 2 fumbles and 1 interception which turn into 17 points in your view all against Brunell. I'm just gonna skip past the Ramsey Debacle and move onto the Dallas game. Not much here except Brunell was sacked by Dixon at the Dallas 42 and fumbled to Dixon which I think he fumbled back to Portis. No points were given up by Brunell in that one. Now to the Ravens game. Brunell was rolling out and from his blind side and was sacked by Reed which caused a fumble. That fumble was then returned 22 yards for a TD. I have no idea how you could blame Brunell for that one. He was blindsided by Reed because Betts completely missed his assignment on blocking Reed. Missed assignment isn't even the word for what Betts did on that play, he gave up what we old players used to call a LOOKOUT BLOCK. Thats where the blocker misses his block and yells back to the QB, LOOKOUT. Later on Brunell threw his second INT of the season to SUCKTIME Sanders, that was intended for Coles. Which by the way was a good pass that was just picked off by a player that wanted it more. After that play, the Ravens drove 70 yards and scored a field goal. Again if you want to blame that on Brunell, then fine. So at this point in your eyes Brunell has given up 2 INT's and 4 fumbles which in turn give the opposition a total of 27 points which ALL go against Brunell. We finally move to the chicago game. We all saw that the pass that was deflected at the line to Azumah for Brunell's third INT of the season that went 70 yards for the TD. That play couldn't happen again in a million years. It was just bad luck. So finally, Brunell has had 3 INT's one of which was a very odd 70 yard TD return and 4 fumbles that give Brunell a grand total of 34 points. You say 28 points and 9 turnovers. If your gonna blame the guy atleast give him his full share of the blame at 34 points. In my eyes, I see Brunell giving up 3 INT's for a total of 7 points that you can argue was strange at the least.
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