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Schneed10 · 04-16-2007, 11:33 AM

So much of a team's success is tied to the QB, we all know this.

When Gibbs came back in 2004 we had nobody worth a crap on the roster at QB. I think the team overpaid for Brunell, but honestly who else was available? Jeff Garcia was just let go from the 49ers, but he played dismally in Detroit and Cleveland because the supporting cast was miserable. I don't think he would have done any better than Brunell did with the 'Skins. You could argue that the Skins should have drafted a QB right out of the gates - but we had the 5th pick and missed out on a shot at Eli or Phillip Rivers who went 1 and 4 respectively. Roethlisberger was available for our pick at 5, he went to Pitt at #11. But look at the difference between Roethlisberger with a surrounding cast like the 2005 Steelers and a terrible supporting cast like the 2006 Steelers. He may have won a SB, but I'm not buying that he's anything special at QB. So even to this day, I can still see the logic in the Brunell move, though maybe lowering the price tag woulda made sense.

As for the legacy of Gibbs II, it's largely going to depend upon the success of Jason Campbell. The D was a problem last year, but you have to like GW's chances of at least getting them back to average. Given that, Campbell is what will define the 'Skins in 2007 and in the years to come. If he develops into a pro-bowler, making plays on a consistent basis, then when Gibbs leaves us for the final time, we will be a playoff contender year in and year out. And at that point, I'd credit him for having the conviction to stand up and trade a lot for a guy he thought was worth it; Gibbs would deserve the credit for returning us to legitimacy.

Look at Manning, Brady, Brees, McNabb, Hasselbeck, and Carson Palmer. They've all established themselves as excellent leaders and consistent QBs, and consequently their teams are perennial playoff favorites. If Campbell develops into that kind of QB, then Gibbs II will have been an excellent coaching stint. And until we know what Campbell's really made of, the jury is still out on Joe Gibbs the second.

04-16-2007, 11:33 AM	#14
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Why are we giving Gibbs a pass? So much of a team's success is tied to the QB, we all know this. When Gibbs came back in 2004 we had nobody worth a crap on the roster at QB. I think the team overpaid for Brunell, but honestly who else was available? Jeff Garcia was just let go from the 49ers, but he played dismally in Detroit and Cleveland because the supporting cast was miserable. I don't think he would have done any better than Brunell did with the 'Skins. You could argue that the Skins should have drafted a QB right out of the gates - but we had the 5th pick and missed out on a shot at Eli or Phillip Rivers who went 1 and 4 respectively. Roethlisberger was available for our pick at 5, he went to Pitt at #11. But look at the difference between Roethlisberger with a surrounding cast like the 2005 Steelers and a terrible supporting cast like the 2006 Steelers. He may have won a SB, but I'm not buying that he's anything special at QB. So even to this day, I can still see the logic in the Brunell move, though maybe lowering the price tag woulda made sense. As for the legacy of Gibbs II, it's largely going to depend upon the success of Jason Campbell. The D was a problem last year, but you have to like GW's chances of at least getting them back to average. Given that, Campbell is what will define the 'Skins in 2007 and in the years to come. If he develops into a pro-bowler, making plays on a consistent basis, then when Gibbs leaves us for the final time, we will be a playoff contender year in and year out. And at that point, I'd credit him for having the conviction to stand up and trade a lot for a guy he thought was worth it; Gibbs would deserve the credit for returning us to legitimacy. Look at Manning, Brady, Brees, McNabb, Hasselbeck, and Carson Palmer. They've all established themselves as excellent leaders and consistent QBs, and consequently their teams are perennial playoff favorites. If Campbell develops into that kind of QB, then Gibbs II will have been an excellent coaching stint. And until we know what Campbell's really made of, the jury is still out on Joe Gibbs the second. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.