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Old 08-17-2022, 10:27 AM   #1258
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Re: The Most Fresh & Cordial Political Thread Ever

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Originally Posted by nonniey View Post
Hardly a stretch. It is almost certainly true that a coup was attempted and he definitely outdid Hillary for illegally having classified material where it didn't belong.

I disagree with the notion that Trump tried to overthrow the government. Beat me up about my perspective all you want, but that's giving him way too much credit in my opinion. I'm not a "Trump defender", I am just calling it the way I see it. If it were anyone else in the same position, I would have the same perspective. Yes, I think his 'followers' showed up and rallied for him on that day, a violent riot ensued, and a bunch of assholes stormed the Capitol with no real plan other than chaos. Meanwhile his tweets fueled the fire and he waited way too long to try to shut it down. Were people scared - yes. Were people hurt - yes. Did people die - yes. But to say he tried to overthrow the government is a stretch - and from what I've seen in the reports, hearings, etc., it never got close to that, and they counted the votes a couple hours later...

I am still reserving judgment on the classified material stuff. I don't know exactly what either one of them had - and what the materials pertained to. It's pretty hard to say anyone was outdone when it comes to illegally having classified material outside a controlled environment. Both were obviously wrong to do what they did.
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