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Originally Posted by SunnySide
Ill save everyone some time ...
Dr Erickson and Massihi run a walk in urgent care clinic in CA.
They arent epidemologists, they are walk-in clinic doctors.
They are Trump supporters, anti-mask people.
People like HTTR who are hungry for any confirmaiton of their Q Anon beliefs will take what these Q Anon walk-in clinic doctors say as gospel ... and ignore the 99.9999% of true experts who disagree with them.
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But public health experts were quick to point out the major flaws in the doctors’ methodology – namely that only a tiny percentage of Californians have actually been tested, a group that is more likely to test positive and is not representative of the larger population.
'This pandemic has been so severely politicized in this country that evidence, no matter how poor, gets amplified enormously if it benefits one side or another.'
Dr. Carl Bergstrom, University of Washington
But public health experts were quick to debunk the doctors’ findings as misguided and riddled with statistical errors — and an example of the kind of misleading information they are forced to waste precious time disputing.
The doctors should never have assumed that the patients they tested — who came for walk-in COVID-19 tests or who sought urgent care for symptoms they experienced in the middle of a pandemic — are representative of the general population, said Dr. Carl Bergstrom, a University of Washington biologist who specializes in infectious disease modeling. He likened their extrapolations to “estimating the average height of Americans from the players on an NBA court.” And most credible studies of COVID-19 death rates are far higher than the ones the doctors presented.
“They’ve used methods that are ludicrous to get results that are completely implausible,” Bergstrom said.
In a rare statement late Monday, the American College of Emergency Physicians and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine declared they “emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Messihi. These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19. As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health.”
https://www.kqed.org/news/11814749/b...-like-wildfire
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If you dont agree with these walk-in clinic doctors and reject what all the real experts are saying .... youre a left wing nazi.
Gesus Krist ... these conspiracy theory types of people.
lol a fucking walk in clinic doctor ... . lol
thats funny as hell.
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"Dr Erickson and Massihi run a walk in urgent care clinic in CA. "
And does that debunk their opinions about the mortality rates of COVID-19? If that fact alone discredits them please explain how?
"They arent epidemologists, they are walk-in clinic doctors. "
So does that mean their raw data was falsified just because they're not epidemiologists? Are you saying they are incapable of interpreting the data and coming up with a conclusion just because they're not "epidemiologists?"
"They are Trump supporters, anti-mask people. "
Who cares if they're Trump supporters. That has nothing to do with their conclusion. I am a proud Trump supporter and I wear a mask. I was coming home from work last week and saw a pack of BLM protesters not wearing any mask. So maybe there is no correlation between wearing a mask and being a Trump supporter.
"People like HTTR who are hungry for any confirmaiton of their Q Anon beliefs will take what these Q Anon walk-in clinic doctors say as gospel ... and ignore the 99.9999% of true experts who disagree with them. "
Let us avoid personal attacks and stick to the issue. Covid-19 is a hoax. There is no real numbers on how many people are dying from it or other causes and I have proof. This is a CDC report.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...cNWZVckYq5BzdE
The CDC has combined the total number of Pneumonia, Influenza, and
COVID-19 deaths as Covid-19 deaths. Both confirmed and presumptive cases of Covid-19 are being counted as COVID-19 deaths based on CDC guidelines. That is why I am convinced that the death tolls are nowhere close to what has been reported on LEFTWING NAZI MEDIA. So how could your experts have a clue about the mortality rates is or isn't if they don't even know how many people are dying from Covid-19 or another respiratory virus? How do they know the mortality rate of Covid-19 if they have no idea about the number of people infected? Let me guess, I should shut up and listen to them, even though, they don't know to shit themselves. Please answers this question and don't skip over it.
"In a rare statement late Monday, the American College of Emergency Physicians and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine declared they “emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Messihi.
These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19. As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health.”"
So let me get this straight. Dr. Erickson and Messihi are wrong simply because these people say so? Why not prove them wrong with their own data? Oh, that's right, they don't have any reliable data! They didn't offer any substance at all. They arrogantly dismissed Dr. Erickson and Messihi with a rebuttal. Then they tried to insult their character because they have a different opinion.
"If you dont agree with these walk-in clinic doctors and reject what all the real experts are saying .... youre a left wing nazi. "
That is totally irrational. Do you claim if I believe some doctors who are reporting their own findings over "experts" who consider themselves an authority figure on this subject then I'm a left-wing Nazi? Those are some serious mental gymnastics you had to jump through to come to that conclusion. Nazis pushed propaganda and censored those who opposed their views just like the modern-day left is trying to do right now. All these major companies like Google, Twitter, Facebook are censoring conservatives and demonetizing them. Dr. Erickson isn't forcing anyone to accept his findings. He didn't demand that people who disagree with him get removed from Youtube. If you think about it, you and your party have way more in common with Nazis racist skinheads and KKK members.