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Old 08-04-2015, 10:34 PM   #13
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Re: All things Middle East related

you're arguing emotionally, so this is kinda becoming circular and pointless.

you're also basically saying all muslims are evil and out to kill us, and assuming engagement is giving up. you can't have any rational discussion with such sweeping generalizations and false premises.

being iranian doesn't make you subhuman, not every muslim believes in blowing themselves up or destroying the world. I mean I could point out how the bible says that divorced women who remarry should be stoned to death, that rape is generally considered the women's fault etc, but that doesn't mean that every christian believes and practices that (though there are more violent muslims right now, part of that is due to weak national identity/government control (egypt/the old iraq have/had less issues with crazies, religion is filling the power gap the way christianity did in the middle ages, when christians were, well, extremely violent). they'd probably point to gitmo and our leaders talk about invasion the way you're harping on death to america.

you've got to realize that some issues are more important than others and not cut off the big issue over relatively minor ones.

I also think you don't understand rational actors. iran as a state acts in it's own self interest, ie it doesn't want nukes dropped on it's soil or it's people starving. it has nothing to do with those 4 prisoners, that's the micro scale. they also aren't going to be america's puppet, we already tried that, it didn't work out.

anyways, I can't/won't try to fix you're raging xenophobia, but basically you're point is "i hate iranians, i hate this deal, i have no idea what i want to see, rage rage rage" and I don't exactly know what I'm supposed to do with that, so.
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