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Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru
I have to strongly disagree with what offiss said by it starting with god and democracy, that's not the only way to transform into a strong nation. maybe it is in your mind and that's your perrogative.
as for daseal, aren't u doing what u just critized offiss for doing by lumping all americans into one collective that is intolerent of other religions and cultures? I know I'm not intolerent of where someone wishes to put their faith and where they come from. If anything I'm more intrigued. But yet with muslims i do have to admit I've had stereotypical thoughts since 9-11, but i ask how could any person, not just in this country, not have similar thoughts from time to time. Of course I also wonder about the people(whites, blacks, asians, and hispanics) i see on the street when there is something in the news about a serial killer or a gang-related shooting. In my mind it's self preservation to keep my guard up and to get a good read on anybody I might encounter. I know there will always be fanatics of every religion and non-religions. Sometimes people misconstrew(sp?) the messages and warp them either to cleanse themselves of any guilt from something they have done or will do or they warp the messages to misguide others who r easily swayed.
In my opinion you(daseal) and offiss are the polar opposites on this topic, but I think(and hope) the majority of people are a mixture and balance of the two. and if the people of this country and/or world with either extremist viewpoint become the majority, then god, or whomever you believe in, help us.
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The thing you have to acknowledge is this, my view point is the one that this country was founded upon, and I think the result's have been unparalled in history, I also will say take a look at the result's of the foundation of the muslim religion, history speak's for itself. I know few these day's agree with what I am saying but I wouldn't be a friend to my fellow man if I hid the truth, which is unfortunatlly is becoming more and more less popular, I do support the right for an individual to believe what he want's to believe, but there is a big price to pay for those that choose wrongly!