[sportscurmudgeon]

Someone here said I started this thread as a "troll". Thank you for reading my mind - - and getting it wrong.

I started this thread because I actually thought that some of the people who had spent an entire week crabbing at the coaching staff might - - MIGHT - - take some of the joy that comes from the kind of win that happened on Monday night and turn it into some contrition. Not only was I wrong about that, I now have the honor of having people declare what my motives were in starting this thread. Since I am POSITIVE that you don't know why I started the thread, then maybe I should take your other declarations here with a grain of salt?

And just to remand the discussion to an issue in the original post, lots of people here started threads and contributed to threads saying in no uncertain terms that the Redskins' players would never trust Joe Gibbs ever again. Should I go and find those threads and do some quoting here? Well, if that's the way the team will hang in and play hard to the end for a coach that they won't trust as far as I can throw a piano - with one hand - then let's find some other reasons for them not to trust him.

I don't read players' minds; so I don't know if they trust Joe Gibbs or not. I don't really care either. Here's what I know. They were down on Monday night, and most teams in that circumstance would have rolled over and played dead for the final 5 minutes of the game. But this team didn't. So maybe they "respect" Joe Gibbs even if they can't possibly "trust him".