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I was a Shanahan supporter/defender/apologist for 3.5 years, right up until about mid October this year but I cannot see how any reasonable person can justify wanting him to return under any circumstance.

The record speaks for itself. He's in the Spurrier/Zorn range with his winning percentage. Best case if we win next week, our record is 4-12, the same record of the coach (Zorn) that was fired and he replaced 4 years ago. Worst case, with a loss and some 'help' we've given up the #1 overall pick. This season was a disaster, no other way to put it.

He's made all of the decisions (players, coaching staff, schemes) and by-in-large, they've mostly been failures. Of his 34 draft picks, you can count 4 (T. Williams, Kerrigan, RG3, Morris) as impact player, just 8 (Riley, Jenkins, Hankerson, Helu, Paul, A. Robinson, Amerson, Reed) that are between mediocre and contributors and the rest are just roster fill or no longer on the team. 12 out of 34 is pretty weak. Add in the spotty free agent record outside of Garcon and Cofield, the roster management was poor.

Even the cap penalty, which was pretty much BS, still happened under his direction. He was involved in the process and as the man in charge, it's his responsibility. The 'noise' around the franchise was largely caused by him as well whether it was publicly feuding with Haynesworth, McNabb or RG3, the comments at 3-6 last year or the many, many, many 'sources' and leaks that seem to eminate from his camp.

How can anyone, ANYONE, consider bringing him back and think it will be any different?