Anyone else pissed that Cleveland got a 5th rounder for Andre Davis?
 

First off, Im not bashing anyone in the front office, Im just bitching and moaning a little as Im prone to do after years of watching my beloved Skins rip my heart out season after season. That being said, I heard on talk radio this morning that the Pats traded a 5th round pick to the Browns for WR Andre Davis. A 5th rounder for Davis who was a 2nd round pick and who had injuries. We had Rod Gardner, a former 1st round pick who had a few good solid seasons, and we couldn't get anything more than what a 6th or 7th round pick from Carolina? Hindsight's 20/20, but maybe we should've just kept him longer.

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We couldn't keep him longer - we needed his salary to sign our rookies.

We had also made it pretty clear very early that we would try to move him, both to satisfy his desires and fix our cap. That lowered the incentive for a team to give us much in return, since he had to go eventually.

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I actually think its a steal for the pats. I've been a fan of andre davis' since his days at va tech. I don't know why the Falcons were trying to do this trade because him and vick has awesome chemisty at tech. I heard the Eagles tried to offer him a 7th rounder, but took New England's 5th rounder. I believe Andre Davis could be a 1,000 yard reciever if he could stay healthy. I think he was just in a bad situation in Cleveland.

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[QUOTE=skin_fanatic]I actually think its a steal for the pats. I've been a fan of andre davis' since his days at va tech. I don't know why the Falcons were trying to do this trade because him and vick has awesome chemisty at tech. I heard the Eagles tried to offer him a 7th rounder, but took New England's 5th rounder. I believe Andre Davis could be a 1,000 yard reciever if he could stay healthy. I think he was just in a bad situation in Cleveland.[/QUOTE]

YEah, I thought he kicked ass at Tech too, as I am a Hokie myself. However, Gardner has proven his worth in this league. I'll tell ya another college player that has surprisingly done very little, that's Quincy Wilson from WVU. That guy literally RAN OVER Va Tech and Miami, he was a stud. He landed on the Falcons practice squad and now he's 3rd string on the Bengals.

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It's our fault. We gave Gardner the nickname '50-50'. That hurt his trade value. Let's not do the same to Ramsey. :oink:

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davis was beast at tech

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[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]YEah, I thought he kicked ass at Tech too, as I am a Hokie myself. However, Gardner has proven his worth in this league. I'll tell ya another college player that has surprisingly done very little, that's Quincy Wilson from WVU. That guy literally RAN OVER Va Tech and Miami, he was a stud. He landed on the Falcons practice squad and now he's 3rd string on the Bengals.[/QUOTE]

If you're still down in the Burg, I'm always drinking at BWW and would grab a beer sometime during the Skins games.

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Imagine you are an NFL GM. You need to pick up a WR for your team who has some game experience.

Available at the moment are Andre Davis and Rod Gardner. Which one do you sign?

I'd take Davis in a heartbeat and maybe that's why he drew a higher price than Gardner. He's a better player than Gardner - - even though neither one is spectacular.

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The biggest mistake we've made in the front office is trading coles it forced our hands by taking the cap hit. We basically gave Coles to the Jets for his yearly contract. By the way did anyone see him and Pennington tear it up against the Vikes...he looked great.

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[QUOTE=BossHog]It's our fault. We gave Gardner the nickname '50-50'. That hurt his trade value. Let's not do the same to Ramsey. :oink:[/QUOTE]

Come on you can't be serious. Ramsey's lack of actions speak louder than any words we fans call him. Some team will be stupid enough to think that it's the Redskins inability to use him to his full capabilities. Let's wait and see if Ramsey has a Drew Brees season. Not likely.

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[QUOTE=STPainmaker]The biggest mistake we've made in the front office is trading coles it forced our hands by taking the cap hit. We basically gave Coles to the Jets for his yearly contract. By the way did anyone see him and Pennington tear it up against the Vikes...he looked great.[/QUOTE]

Coles isn't going to do anything spectacular for the Jets. He will not have a 1000 yds. in receiving and definintlely will not lead in TDs. Most Jets fans feel like we got the best end of the deal with Santana Moss. Sure Moss has had hamstring problems but no way near the kind of problem Coles has with the toe. I'll take Moss anytime with his speed on the deep ball over Coles.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]Coles isn't going to do anything spectacular for the Jets. He will not have a 1000 yds. in receiving and definintlely will not lead in TDs. Most Jets fans feel like we got the best end of the deal with Santana Moss. Sure Moss has had hamstring problems but no way near the kind of problem Coles has with the toe. I'll take Moss anytime with his speed on the deep ball over Coles.[/QUOTE]
The problem isn't Coles vs Moss talent its how much of a cap hit we took.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]Coles isn't going to do anything spectacular for the Jets. He will not have a 1000 yds. in receiving and definintlely will not lead in TDs. Most Jets fans feel like we got the best end of the deal with Santana Moss. Sure Moss has had hamstring problems but no way near the kind of problem Coles has with the toe. I'll take Moss anytime with his speed on the deep ball over Coles.[/QUOTE]
You have to calculate is Santana Moss 9 million dollars against the salary cap better than Coles. I'm willing to bet Coles has a better year than Moss, however more likely b/c of QB then anything else. Read this article
[u][url="http://www.washington"]www.washington[/url]post.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18484-2005Mar8.html[/u]

Re: Anyone else pissed that Cleveland got a 5th rounder for Andre Davis?
 

[QUOTE=STPainmaker]The problem isn't Coles vs Moss talent its how much of a cap hit we took.[/QUOTE]

I just responded to your assessment of Coles's performance. I remember how good he looked on our first game of the season against the Jets 2 seasons ago. He went down hill from there. I'd rather take a cap hit than have a disgruntled player poluting the lockeroom with dissatisfaction. Look at the Eagles.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]I just responded to your assessment of Coles's performance. I remember how good he looked on our first game of the season against the Jets 2 seasons ago. He went down hill from there. I'd rather take a cap hit than have a disgruntled player poluting the lockeroom with dissatisfaction. Look at the Eagles.[/QUOTE]

If you think he was a locker room cancer it might be worth it, but Gibbs seemed to get through to everyone. I'm just suprised he couldn't get Coles on his side.