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Alvin Walton 02-10-2016 08:38 PM

Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
First of all before anyone gets their nose bent out of shape, I would prefer we did not draft a CB in the first round.
Will we?
Maybe...
I have seen a couple mocks with us taking Eli Apple.
Culliver is nursing his second ACL tear and its probably going to be mid/late summer at absolute best to see him doing any serious cutting.
It would cost $3.75 million in dead cap to cut Culliver this offseason.
His suspension voided guaranteed money.
[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6624/chris-culliver]Chris Culliver - Washington Redskins - 2016 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

Apple could be a nice addition as he is one of the taller CBs in the draft.
[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2060759/eli-apple]Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url]

Culliver stuff....
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2016/02/10/offseason-questions-can-chris-culliver-make-a-full-recovery/[/url]

Irrefutable 02-10-2016 08:54 PM

Re: Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
no thanks, sign a mid-level free agent CB. The early draft picks must be used on the front 7... preferably on the defensive line

DYoungJelly 02-10-2016 09:14 PM

Re: Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1139126]no thanks, sign a mid-level free agent CB. The early draft picks must be used on the front 7... preferably on the defensive line[/quote]

What if McLoving thinks the next Revis is available at our pick?

BPA every round, every pick. If we have good depth at the position, trade a guy or cut a guy and use the money elsewhere.

The notion we pass on the next Jonathan Ogden because we have a right tackle on the rise and the best tackle in the league is silly. (Just an example.) Draft the next Ogden and trade Moses to Carolina.

It's the only way to have more talent than salary.

Seattle made it to back to back Superbowls and are still contenders because they used this strategy.

It would be awesome to the have the Seahawks issues with figuring out which guys to pay and which guys to let go because they drafted huge talent on the cheap. BPA gives them more talent than they can afford under the cap.

BPA is how a team gets into the position to have Seattle's problems.

That Guy 02-10-2016 09:52 PM

Re: Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
we're bringing in another corner one way or the other. i wouldn't be against it if scot felt like that was the best way to go.

Bangee7 02-10-2016 10:38 PM

Re: Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
I'd be fine with a CB.

At this point, Scott McL has shown he knows more about building football teams than I do.

I trust that if he picks a CB, then that must have been the highest rated player on his board and I value his board over any other talking head, talent scout.

Alvin Walton 02-11-2016 08:16 AM

Re: Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
Mayock now has Apple as the #4 rated CB.
Anyone think that four CBs will go in the first round?

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000635418/article/mike-mayocks-2016-nfl-draft-position-rankings]Mike Mayock's 2016 NFL Draft position rankings - NFL.com[/url]

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-11-2016 10:21 AM

Re: Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1139142]Mayock now has Apple as the #4 rated CB.
Anyone think that four CBs will go in the first round?

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000635418/article/mike-mayocks-2016-nfl-draft-position-rankings]Mike Mayock's 2016 NFL Draft position rankings - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

It's possible, and it depends on whether teams have Jalen Ramsey listed as a CB or a Safety

over the mountain 02-11-2016 11:40 AM

Re: Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0OLU8gG.jpg[/IMG]

too late for this guy but he seems at peace with it.

skinsfan69 02-12-2016 02:27 AM

Re: Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
If corner is BPA when we pick then go for it. Even before Culliver was hurt he was not worth 8 million a year. He was not a shutdown corner by any means.

Irrefutable 02-12-2016 09:44 AM

Re: Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1139174]If corner is BPA when we pick then go for it. Even before Culliver was hurt he was not worth 8 million a year. He was not a shutdown corner by any means.[/quote]

so do the Redskins use the escape clause in Culliver's contract and cut him ?

30gut 02-12-2016 06:36 PM

Re: Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1139125]First of all before anyone gets their nose bent out of shape, I would prefer we did not draft a CB in the first round.[/quote]

For me its not that complicated.
If a CB is the BPA in the 1st we should draft them.

I don't get the reasoning behind not wanting to draft a certain position IF they are the BPA.

Alvin Walton 02-12-2016 07:21 PM

Re: Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
[quote=30gut;1139193]For me its not that complicated.
If a CB is the BPA in the 1st we should draft them.

I don't get the reasoning behind not wanting to draft a certain position IF they are the BPA.[/quote]

Ok, preempt that with "In a perfect world"...

30gut 02-12-2016 07:49 PM

Re: Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1139197]Ok, preempt that with "In a perfect world"...[/quote]Why? (actual question because im curious how other people view the draft)

The only caveat I have 4 best player available isn't really a caveat. But best player available applies not only to the drafted prospect but to the players on your own team. Meaning if the player you have on your team is better than the player that's available in the draft then that player cannot be the best player available because he's not better than the player that you currently have. But for me that is the only caveat the best player available.

MTK 02-13-2016 01:42 PM

Re: Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
Hell yeah I'd be ok with a CB in the first, why the heck not?

Alvin Walton 02-13-2016 08:28 PM

Re: Drafting a cornerback in the first round.
 
[quote=30gut;1139198]Why? (actual question because im curious how other people view the draft)

The only caveat I have 4 best player available isn't really a caveat. But best player available applies not only to the drafted prospect but to the players on your own team. Meaning if the player you have on your team is better than the player that's available in the draft then that player cannot be the best player available because he's not better than the player that you currently have. But for me that is the only caveat the best player available.[/quote]

It means we have popular solutions to other questionable spots on the defense.
So we can "afford" to take a CB in the first round.

At this point I view the draft like a lot of others on the Warpath.
We need to pick defense in the first round.
The priority that lies therein is debatable, understandably so.
If we get a hot shit corner back then its all cool.

So if we draft Eli Apple I [B]wont [/B]yell WTF in my living room when we make the pick and my wife will scold me.


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