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SirClintonPortis 09-29-2010 07:34 PM

RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/carlos-rogers/redskins-would-rather-face-kol.html]Redskins Insider - Redskins would rather face Kolb than Vick, Rogers says[/url]

Once again, Jason Reid always has to have these misleading titles.

skinsfaninok 09-29-2010 07:44 PM

Re: RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
Who cares what Rogers says? If it wasn't for our horrible debth at CB, he prob would be demoted to the nickle spot. He needs to worry about not getting owned by Jackson/Maclin hell even Avant. I Can't believe he's still on our team after last season. He won't be next season I HOPE.

"But also we're going to have to put our hands on these receivers to not climb up on the safeties. Every week, they're getting 40-, 50-, 60-yard touchdowns. You look at [wide receiver DeSean] Jackson got only [13] catches. But he's leading the league in yardage, so that's something we got to do to stop them from getting up on our safeties."

LMAO Really???? Carlos couldn't jam AIR. His slow ass will get toasted. How many holding or Illegal Contact calls for 22 this week?

SirClintonPortis 09-29-2010 07:50 PM

Re: RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;741021]Who cares what Rogers says? If it wasn't for our horrible debth at CB, he prob would be demoted to the nickle spot. He needs to worry about not getting owned by Jackson/Maclin hell even Avant. I Can't believe he's still on our team after last season. He won't be next season I HOPE.

"But also we're going to have to put our hands on these receivers to not climb up on the safeties. Every week, they're getting 40-, 50-, 60-yard touchdowns. You look at [wide receiver DeSean] Jackson got only [13] catches. But he's leading the league in yardage, so that's something we got to do to stop them from getting up on our safeties."

LMAO Really???? Carlos couldn't jam AIR. His slow ass will get toasted. How many holding or Illegal Contact calls for 22 this week?[/quote]

He gives tidbits about how they're going to defend Vick. They're going to use DBs to spy on him, which means more room for Jackson and Maclin, which means both of them are burnt toast.

skinsfaninok 09-29-2010 07:56 PM

Re: RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
Basically we need a great pass rush this week to slow down Vick. If 98 is solid then we have a shot

takethecake 09-29-2010 11:09 PM

Re: RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
It's not exactly the same thing, but I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone around the league compare the emergence of vick with the emergence of the wildcat. Both have radical implications for defenses trying to shut them down, but does anyone else feel like it's only a matter of time before defenses really figure out how to eliminate vick as a gamechanger, just as they did with the wildcat? Vick's had great success, but it's come against teams like the lions and the jaguars, who both have very subpar defenses - I'm interested to see what the brighter defensive coordinators and more talented defenses will do to shut him down. Big test for jim haslett this week, one that I'm not really that confident he's up for...

sportscurmudgeon 09-29-2010 11:22 PM

Re: RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
Pardon me whilst I yawn...


This is pretty standard mid-week grist for an upcoming NFL Division game.


Lots of form; not a lot of substance...

GTripp0012 09-30-2010 01:37 AM

Re: RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
[quote=SirClintonPortis;741023]He gives tidbits about how they're going to defend Vick. They're going to use DBs to spy on him, which means more room for Jackson and Maclin, which means both of them are burnt toast.[/quote]Well, by "DBs" they mean: Landry.

Landry isn't a huge part of coverage schemes as is. But what this will do is essentially tell Vick that we're only going to play a few different coverages against him. So he should know where to go with the ball pre-snap on a lot of plays, if he's a competent player.

If we get our pressure schemes on Vick quickly, it won't matter.

SirClintonPortis 09-30-2010 03:34 AM

Re: RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
[quote=GTripp0012;741061]Well, by "DBs" they mean: Landry.

Landry isn't a huge part of coverage schemes as is. But what this will do is essentially tell Vick that we're only going to play a few different coverages against him. So he should know where to go with the ball pre-snap on a lot of plays, if he's a competent player.

If we get our pressure schemes on Vick quickly, it won't matter.[/quote]

Well, if the Eagles center blows the protection calls, we'll get the pressure. If he doesn't, sit in fear for bombs to a WR or McCoy busting a long one after breaking a tackle.
With Kemo or AH on the field, the pocket will likely not be collapsed.

skins89moss 09-30-2010 05:49 AM

Re: RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
They better go pull up tape from when the Bears played the Falcons when Vick was QB cause the Bears got in his ass. Pressured him and forced him to throw the ball or he was sacked.

GhettoDogAllStars 09-30-2010 10:41 AM

Re: RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
I'll bet Landry is chomping at the bit to get a good lick on Vick -- and if he does, it might put Vick out of the game -- but I worry he's going to play him too aggressive. Spies need to be conservative and that isn't exactly Landry's forte.

BleedBurgundy 09-30-2010 11:42 AM

Re: RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
Definitely starting DeSean Jackson in fantasy this week. Dude's been killing it so far this year.

horse 09-30-2010 01:20 PM

Re: RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
[quote=BleedBurgundy;741144]Definitely starting DeSean Jackson in fantasy this week. Dude's been killing it so far this year.[/quote]

You should be ashamed to do that if your a Redskin fan.:soapbox:

SirClintonPortis 09-30-2010 03:26 PM

Re: RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
[quote=horse;741184]You should be ashamed to do that if your a Redskin fan.:soapbox:[/quote]

There's no need to root for Jackson to score a touchdown. He scores them just fine against us when we're rooting against him.

Longtimefan 09-30-2010 04:37 PM

Re: RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
First, I see no benificial reason for openly telling the Eagles how they intend to defend. Even if what Rogers is saying is a part of the defensive game plan, the idea should be scrapped sight on seeing. We have no one on defense capable of running with Vick without sacraficing other areas of the defense.

Rush four down linemen [stay in their lanes] control rush Vick, keep him contained in the pocket as much as possible and force him to beat us passing from the pocket. I don't have a lot of confidence in the scheme they've been playing against a QB like Vick. If Vick has limited trouble getting to the edge, he'll make LB's like AC look awfully bad.

SportsFanatic 09-30-2010 10:22 PM

Re: RI: Rogers on dealing with Vick
 
Unlike last week, I'm confident the Skins have heard of Desean Jackson.


Jags never heard of him before


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