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skinsfaninok 04-15-2010 05:15 PM

Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/15/rooney-says-steelers-have-not-talked-to-other-teams-about-big-ben-trade/"]Rooney says Steelers have not talked to other teams about Big Ben trade | ProFootballTalk.com[/URL]

If you are the Rams do you give the number 1 pick away for a 2 Time SB winning qb in his prime? Or maybe Oakland giving up the 8th overall pick... I would think this is all just speculation but after Philly traded McNABB to us, and Haynesworth also rumored to be dealt, I wouldn't be shocked with anything anymore?

MTK 04-15-2010 05:18 PM

Re: Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
I think Rooney is pretty pissed off but trading Holmes sent the message he wanted to get across. Trading a franchise QB with no solid backup plan in place would be suicide.

Monkeydad 04-15-2010 05:25 PM

Re: Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
^ Agreed. The Rams are set on taking Bradford I believe. The Steelers would probably not want to start all over again with a rookie QB, or rely on Batch/Dixon/Randle El.

This is a rumor that's blowing things way out of proportion. Yes, Rooney is beyond angry with Ben. Yes, I think he'll suspend him if the league doesn't. However, he's their QB and until Roethlisberger does something really severe (jail time, full-year suspension), he'll be retained as their QB.

Remember, Jerome Harrison is still on the team. While Holmes was sacrificed to send a message to Ben, the team isn't completely opposed to keeping bad characters around. In fact, because Holmes was almost cut/was traded to send a signal to Roethlisberger shows that they really want him to straighten up and remain on the team...they do value him as a football player but they'll probably just have to tolerate him as a human being. Their ultimate goal is still winning.

Carnage 04-15-2010 08:13 PM

Re: Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
Witness statements just came out on PFT and smoking gun. The steelers want no part of what is coming.

GTripp0012 04-15-2010 08:19 PM

Re: Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
I wouldn't have given him a 100 million dollar contract to begin with. If I could get someone to take that contract, that's as good as cash-money.

It is, I say.

jdc65 04-15-2010 08:24 PM

Re: Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
[quote=Carnage;688866]Witness statements just came out on PFT and smoking gun. The steelers want no part of what is coming.[/quote]

Agreed, Big Ben is looking at serious time lost, as in a major suspension. Reportedly, the Steeler faithful have had enough, and would be ok if they dealt him. I can see Buffalo or Oakland making a play for him

GTripp0012 04-15-2010 08:28 PM

Re: Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
That's actually a trade that Oakland SHOULD do.

I'd imagine Pittsburgh would probably try the trade for Campbell/draft a guy route if they actually dealt Big Ben. I don't actually think it will come to a head this year, but who knows? The Rooneys apparently make impulse decisions.

GMScud 04-15-2010 08:32 PM

Re: Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
[quote=Mattyk;688801]I think Rooney is pretty pissed off but trading Holmes sent the message he wanted to get across. Trading a franchise QB with no solid backup plan in place would be suicide.[/quote]

I agree. You can just tell that Rooney is sick that the face of his franchise is gigantic scumbag. But the guy has won 2 Super Bowls. You can't trade him, as much as I'm sure Rooney wants to.

Dirtbag59 04-15-2010 08:32 PM

Re: Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
So much for hush money. Got to love Ben getting screwed over big time.

tootergray34 04-15-2010 08:41 PM

Re: Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
I'm thankful for Ben...now I can use him as a new way to describe a loss.

man...our guys just got rothlisberger'd today.

GMScud 04-15-2010 08:42 PM

Re: Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
Some excerpts from the witness statements:

[I]
"Ben asked us to go to his 'VIP' area. . . . We all went with him. He said there were shots for us, numerous shots were on the bar, and he told us to take them. His bodyguard came and took my arm and said come with me, he escorted me into a side door/hallway, and sat me on a stool. He left and Ben came back with his penis out of his pants. I told him it wasn't OK, no, we don't need to do this and I proceeded to get up and try to leave. I went to the first door I saw, which happened to be a bathroom. He followed me into the bathroom and shut the door behind him. I still said no, this is not OK, and he then had sex with me. He said it was OK. He then left without saying anything. I went out of the hallway/door to the side where I saw my friends. We left [the club] and went to the first police car we saw."[/I]


[I]"His bodyguards took him back to the rooms w/bathroom and I said, 'I don't know if this is a good idea' and he said 'it's OK.' He has sex w/me and meanwhile his bodyguards told me friends they couldn't pass them to get to me. My friends found me & talked to a Milledgeville policeman and he said to report it."[/I]

[I]Ann Marie Lubatti said that she saw Roethlisberger's bodyguards guide the alleged victim to a side door, and that two minutes later she saw Roethlisberger walk back there. "I immediately went up to the other bodyguard and said, 'this isn't right,'" Lubatti said in her statement. "'My friend is back there with Ben. She needs to come back right now.' The bodyguard wouldn't look at me, he just said, '[URL="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0415101roethlisberger7.html"]I don't know what you are talking about[/URL].'"[/I]

GMScud 04-15-2010 08:42 PM

Re: Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
[quote=tootergray34;688878]I'm thankful for Ben...now I can use him as a new way to describe a loss.
[B]
man...our guys just got rothlisberger'd today[/B].[/quote]

I don't think the Redskins are going to get sexually assaulted on gamedays.

Schneed10 04-15-2010 08:44 PM

Re: Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
Now that I'm hearing the details coming out about this whole ordeal, there are now exactly two players who I would stand up and actually scream at visciously if I had seats near the visiting bench at Fed Ex. I think Ben is right up there with Vick in my mind, as a complete piece of trash. I'm so disgusted by both of them that I'd actually become that guy at the game, the guy who just won't stop angrily heckling.

I'd probably stroke out from yelling so much.

NYCskinfan82 04-15-2010 08:55 PM

Re: Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
Can't see them doing that, i think there upset but just blowing smoke Ben ain't going nowhere unless they get 2 1st rd picks or 3 2nd rd picks.

Hog1 04-15-2010 08:56 PM

Re: Would the Steelers really trade Ben?
 
[quote=GMScud;688880]I don't think the Redskins are going to get sexually assaulted on gamedays.[/quote]
THAT would be worse than...........4-12


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