Dallas Sartz Signs with Vikings
 

The Vikings recently had free agent LB Dallas Sartz in for a visit.


Sartz, a 2007 fifth-round pick, couldn't make the Redskins last year and was out of football. He'd probably be just another camp body for the Vikes.

[url=http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/16200582.html]Vikings checking into Kearse[/url]

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[quote=Dirtyskin21;429368]The Vikings recently had free agent LB Dallas Sartz in for a visit.


Sartz, a 2007 fifth-round pick, couldn't make the Redskins last year and was out of football. He'd probably be just another camp body for the Vikes.

[URL="http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/16200582.html"]Vikings checking into Kearse[/URL][/quote]

Thats ironic because I was just asking myself yesterday whatever happened to Dallas Sartz. I even went as far as googling him to see where he was at. I got nothing. Then you post this today. Funny.

I would have liked to have seen us give him another shot. Now all he will ever be is a wasted draft pick to us. The sad thing is that he might actually be a good player for somebody else. Only time will tell.

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Wow, we are truly scraping the bottom of the bucket when Dallas Sartz gets his own thread!! Snyderattorn, save us with a move!!

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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! he'll live in my memories alweays.

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Sartz is a good athlete, but he's light & couldn't take on blocks. If he could bulk up he might make a team. I think if Vinny et al saw enough of a chance that he might crack the roster, they'd have signed him to come back to camp.

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He was doomed from the start....c'mon....he's freaking first name is DALLAS....and you draft him?

c'mon Skins...you know better than that.

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[QUOTE=skinsnut;429403]He was doomed from the start....c'mon....he's freaking first name is DALLAS....and you draft him?

c'mon Skins...you know better than that.[/QUOTE]

Well, we also drafted a "Landry"

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[QUOTE=freddyg12;429388]Sartz is a good athlete, but he's light & couldn't take on blocks. If he could bulk up he might make a team. I think if Vinny et al saw enough of a chance that he might crack the roster, they'd have signed him to come back to camp.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I agree, he is not strong enough to be the SLB, but too slow to be the WLB. That fact that nobody wanted him after we cut him says it all.

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I thought that he would have been good enough to make the team, but obviously not. I really liked blades. We really got a deal getting him. Sartz, I thought would have gotten serious consideration, especially on some of the preseason plays he made. The fumble return for a touchdown and a couple of other tackes. I guess that the ravens cancellation game hurt his chances.

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That's bad when the Giants are getting impact players in every round on their way to a Super Bowl and our 5th round pick doesn't even make the practice squad.

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[quote=DGreene28;429496]That's bad when the Giants are getting impact players in every round on their way to a Super Bowl and our 5th round pick doesn't even make the practice squad.[/quote]

Don't know what/who you're calling "impact players?"
if you take a cursory glance at the history of 5th round picks in the nfl, you'll see that they are by no means a high probability of making the team.

If you can get starters in the 4th-7th rounds you're doing well IMO. Plus, the Skins did a great job last year of picking up undrafted free agents Heyer, Alexander & Chris Wilson, though he was playing in the cfl.

Recently, w/few draft picks the Skins have been able to land starters & contributors from the late rounds; Montgomery, Golston, Doughty, & Blades.

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[quote=freddyg12;429499]Don't know what/who you're calling "impact players?"
if you take a cursory glance at the history of 5th round picks in the nfl, you'll see that they are by no means a high probability of making the team.

If you can get starters in the 4th-7th rounds you're doing well IMO. Plus, the Skins did a great job last year of picking up undrafted free agents Heyer, Alexander & Chris Wilson, though he was playing in the cfl.

Recently, w/few draft picks the Skins have been able to land starters & contributors from the late rounds; Montgomery, Golston, Doughty, & Blades.[/quote]

I pretty familiar with the history of the NFL draft... How many of the Giants picks in the 2007 draft do you think had a major impact in the playoffs and Super Bowl? How about 5th round and later?

RoundPick (Overall)PlayerPositionSchool
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/1.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]1[/COLOR][/URL]20 (20)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/1256.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Aaron Ross[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/cb.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]CB[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/90.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Texas[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/2.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]2[/COLOR][/URL]19 (51)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/19688.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Steve Smith[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/wr.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]WR[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/370.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]USC[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/3.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]3[/COLOR][/URL]17 (81)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/5472.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Jay Alford[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/dt.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]DT[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/52.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Penn State[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/4.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]4[/COLOR][/URL]17 (116)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/7822.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Zak DeOssie[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/olb.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]OLB[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/122.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Brown[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/5.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]5[/COLOR][/URL]16 (153)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/29867.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Kevin Boss[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/te.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]TE[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/273.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Western Oregon[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/6.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]6[/COLOR][/URL]15 (189)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/2037.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Adam Koets[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/t.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]T[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/74.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Oregon State[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/7.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]7[/COLOR][/URL]14 (224)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/43200.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Michael Johnson[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/s.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]S[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/368.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Arizona[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/7.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]7[/COLOR][/URL]*40 (250)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/12456.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Ahmad Bradshaw[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/rb.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]RB[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/150.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Marshall[/COLOR][/URL]* - Compensatory pick

Re: Dallas Sartz visiting Vikings?
 

Sartz has signed with the Vikings.

Vikings signed Ellis Wyms as well, decent pickup.

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[quote=DGreene28;429503]I pretty familiar with the history of the NFL draft... How many of the Giants picks in the 2007 draft do you think had a major impact in the playoffs and Super Bowl? How about 5th round and later?

RoundPick (Overall)PlayerPositionSchool
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/1.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]1[/COLOR][/URL]20 (20)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/1256.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Aaron Ross[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/cb.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]CB[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/90.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Texas[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/2.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]2[/COLOR][/URL]19 (51)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/19688.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Steve Smith[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/wr.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]WR[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/370.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]USC[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/3.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]3[/COLOR][/URL]17 (81)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/5472.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Jay Alford[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/dt.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]DT[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/52.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Penn State[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/4.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]4[/COLOR][/URL]17 (116)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/7822.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Zak DeOssie[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/olb.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]OLB[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/122.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Brown[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/5.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]5[/COLOR][/URL]16 (153)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/29867.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Kevin Boss[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/te.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]TE[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/273.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Western Oregon[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/6.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]6[/COLOR][/URL]15 (189)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/2037.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Adam Koets[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/t.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]T[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/74.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Oregon State[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/7.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]7[/COLOR][/URL]14 (224)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/43200.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Michael Johnson[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/s.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]S[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/368.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Arizona[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_round/7.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]7[/COLOR][/URL]*40 (250)[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/players/12456.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Ahmad Bradshaw[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_position/rb.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]RB[/COLOR][/URL][URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2007/draft/breakdowns/by_school/150.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]Marshall[/COLOR][/URL]* - Compensatory pick[/quote]

Again, these guys are hardly "impact players" IMO. If you mean good "role players" then you've made a good point.

The point of my post isn't refuted by yours; you said previously that our 5th round pick "can't even make the team" as if that's indicative of poor scouting. My point in return is that a high no. of 5th round picks don't make teams, and that's on good & bad teams. For the few low round picks that contributed on the Giants squad, I'm sure there are some 5th & 6th round picks at home that didn't make the team.

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On top of that, the NYG's 2006 late round picks (5th, 7th) are no longer on the team. Their late round 2005 pick (only had one pick after the 4th) is gone. From their 2004 draft, only their 1st and 2nd rounders are still here.

In that space we have hit on Blades, Montgomery & Golston. 2005 was horrible as we missed on a bunch of picks. In 2004 we missed on Molinaro and Wilson. And in 2006, we missed on our two 7th rounders.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=5110&type=team]NFL Draft History: Full Draft - by Team[/url]

We have a had a bunch of good picks and some stinkers. Fortunately, we have hit on most of our 3rd and above. Much of our poor drafting, IMO, is a direct result of having not a whole lot of picks. Hopefully, that is changing.