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Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor 01-23-2008 09:14 PM

Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
I don't like the hire but the west offense could be beneficial to our player's styles. We have fast wideouts (YAC), an elite tightend (possession) and a heck of a pair running backs. West Coast Offense is designed for high-percentage passes which improves the QB passer rating. It also calls for th qb to get rid of the ball quickly and if everything is covered then the qb can take off which should benefit Campbell. This hire can work out in the end. Portis need to work on his route running and his hands since he will see his share of passes out of the back field. Please God let this system work for us.

The Zimmermans 01-23-2008 09:22 PM

Re: Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
Do you think Campbell is a west coast QB? I certainly do not.

Daseal 01-23-2008 09:31 PM

Re: Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
I think Campbell could be a west coast quarterback. I must admit, his intermediate range needs some work, but I would like to see us work on an hybrid west coast offense that takes the occassional shot.

EternalEnigma21 01-23-2008 09:35 PM

Re: Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
I don't think campbell is a west coast qb. I think we'll be taking a huge step back. I see campbell thriving in a power run offense working well with his mobility, a la rothlesburger, elway, etc...

his strengths are mobility, long ball, keeping the play alive. those things are minimalized by a west coast approach. his weaknesses are the short/intermediate passes and quick reads, which are utilized exclusively in the west coast... not looking too good IMO...

SmootSmack 01-23-2008 09:35 PM

Re: Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
[QUOTE=The Zimmermans;411741]Do you think Campbell is a west coast QB? I certainly do not.[/QUOTE]

[url=http://media.www.dailygamecock.com/media/storage/paper247/news/2004/10/04/Sports/Auburn.Destroys.Tennessee.In.Front.Of.Volunteer.Faithful-740663.shtml]Auburn destroys Tennessee in front of Volunteer faithful - Sports[/url]

"Jason Campbell is finding redemption in the West Coast offense."

"Campbell is running the West Coast offense, with its multiple shifts, quick throws and moving pockets, like a longtime veteran."

GMScud 01-23-2008 09:39 PM

Re: Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
[quote=SmootSmack;411763][URL="http://media.www.dailygamecock.com/media/storage/paper247/news/2004/10/04/Sports/Auburn.Destroys.Tennessee.In.Front.Of.Volunteer.Faithful-740663.shtml"]Auburn destroys Tennessee in front of Volunteer faithful - Sports[/URL]

"Jason Campbell is finding redemption in the West Coast offense."

"Campbell is running the West Coast offense, with its multiple shifts, quick throws and moving pockets, like a longtime veteran."[/quote]

Nice find. I remember that game well, I had just forgotten that they ran such an effective WCO that season. Auburn got robbed by the BCS of a title that year at 13-0. That was the final year of the Zook regime for my Gators...

WillH 01-23-2008 09:59 PM

Re: Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
[quote=SmootSmack;411763][URL="http://media.www.dailygamecock.com/media/storage/paper247/news/2004/10/04/Sports/Auburn.Destroys.Tennessee.In.Front.Of.Volunteer.Faithful-740663.shtml"]Auburn destroys Tennessee in front of Volunteer faithful - Sports[/URL]

"Jason Campbell is finding redemption in the West Coast offense."

"Campbell is running the West Coast offense, with its multiple shifts, quick throws and moving pockets, like a longtime veteran."[/quote]


Good call, but I am not sure being able to do it in College means you can do it in the pros. JC's two biggest problems this season IMO were his short-intermediate throws and his inability to get rid of the ball quickly. That doesnt support a claim that he is currently compatible w/ a WCO, but those do seem like things that can be learned. I say he'll be able to adjust, but after how long? I guess we'll see.

Dirtbag59 01-23-2008 10:47 PM

Re: Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
[quote=SmootSmack;411763][URL="http://media.www.dailygamecock.com/media/storage/paper247/news/2004/10/04/Sports/Auburn.Destroys.Tennessee.In.Front.Of.Volunteer.Faithful-740663.shtml"]Auburn destroys Tennessee in front of Volunteer faithful - Sports[/URL]

"Jason Campbell is finding redemption in the West Coast offense."

"Campbell is running the West Coast offense, with its multiple shifts, quick throws and moving pockets, like a longtime veteran."[/quote]

Damn, not only did you beat me to the punch, you cited sources. Anyway I'm not to worried about the Fassal hiring anymore, so long as we can get Ryan or Swartz to coach the defense. Of course somehow convincing Williams to swallow his pride and continue to coach the defense would be optimal.

skinsfan69 01-23-2008 10:47 PM

Re: Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
[quote=SmootSmack;411763][URL="http://media.www.dailygamecock.com/media/storage/paper247/news/2004/10/04/Sports/Auburn.Destroys.Tennessee.In.Front.Of.Volunteer.Faithful-740663.shtml"]Auburn destroys Tennessee in front of Volunteer faithful - Sports[/URL]

"Jason Campbell is finding redemption in the West Coast offense."

"Campbell is running the West Coast offense, with its multiple shifts, quick throws and moving pockets, like a longtime veteran."[/quote]

That was college. JC IS NOT a West Coast type of QB. He is a pure pocket guy with good mobility. He is best suited for the style of offense that Al ran in KC. The offense that was ran in Balt. was just awful. All short little dump offs to Heep. It was too painful to watch. But I'm sure Fassel will adjust. He had Kerry Collins.

Monkeydad 01-24-2008 11:04 AM

Re: Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
If Saunders and his system is out, anyone honestly expect Collins to be able to beat out Campbell?

If anything, a new system would solidify JC's spot as the #1 QB. Todd Collins was only valuable to us because he could run the Saunders offense with his eyes closed. Jason is a good learner, hard worker and MUCH more of a gifted athlete than Collins.

Heck, without Saunders, Brunell has a chance of beating out Collins.

I think a West Coast offense would suit Campbell well. He's not a "pure pocket passer" and is great on the run, so those moving pockets and rollouts would be great for him. Also, it would be great for Cooley and Portis on those short passes, plus now we have more then one capable WR with Moss, ARE, McCardell, Caldwell and probably Mix next year.

I think it would be a big upgrade. Saunders' "genius" never seemed to show up for us.

Soup's Uncle 01-24-2008 11:12 AM

Re: Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
I think it sucks. New Staff = Learning curve = we're gonna blow next year

BDBohnzie 01-24-2008 11:12 AM

Re: Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
If Saunders is out, so is Collins...he's a free agent this year, and I'm willing to bet Collins will follow Saunders.

What does it matter if it's college where Campbell ran a version of the WCO? He took a good Auburn team undefeated that year in a tough conference. All is says is that Campbell can adjust well to his surroundings, as he had 4 different offensive coordinators in 4 years at Auburn.

And the offense in Baltimore wasn't a pure Fassel offense. Billick had his hands all over it, while Fassel took the fall for it when they weren't successful.

ksmitty7723 01-24-2008 11:16 AM

Re: Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
Just like what BDBohnzie posted. Everyone is all over Saunders here and Gibbs had his hands and feet in the offense. I wish he would have left Saudners alone and let him do his job!

Redskins_P 01-24-2008 11:25 AM

Re: Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
[QUOTE=Soup's Uncle;412044]I think it sucks. New Staff = Learning curve = we're gonna blow next year[/QUOTE]

Way to be optimistic!

Texanskin 01-24-2008 01:26 PM

Re: Jim Fassel's West Coast Offense
 
[quote=Redskins_P;412054]Way to be optimistic![/quote]


I agree with the original post. If we hire an outside HC get ready for rebuilding....period!!!!! I am SICK of not having a consistent playoff team. Damn. You people co-signing Fassel can rub it in my face IF we do well, but until then...this hiring would be stupid. Do you really think the players would run through a wall for him like they would Williams? When players are motivated during the week we get good results. If not....we get 5-11


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