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freddyg12 10-31-2007 11:09 AM

Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d803c416c&template=without-video&confirm=true]Raiders waive struggling WR Williams[/url]

I'm in no way suggesting that we pick this guy up. But for all those that wanted him in 05, now's our chance!

dgack 10-31-2007 11:15 AM

Re: Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
6'5", 230 pounds of underachiever who needs a second chance (or is that third chance?) Can he possibly be any worse than Lloyd?

It's easy to write the dude off but the Lions squad he was a part of was not very good at all, and when the Faiders are your "second chance", well...that's not saying much. I have to admit I'm not totally familiar with his struggles, but he didn't go out like Charles Rogers, so there might be something there. And he can't be that expensive.

I would not be at all surprised to see a team like New England who can afford to roll the dice on a dirt-cheap FA, sign a guy like Williams and have him thrive.

hooskins 10-31-2007 11:16 AM

Re: Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
Absolute trash(Williams not you)

dgack 10-31-2007 11:18 AM

Re: Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
[quote=hooskins;371873]Absolute trash(Williams not you)[/quote]

As in, locker room poison? Or is it a case of Westbrookitis (chronic lack of heart)?

Stacks42 10-31-2007 11:24 AM

Re: Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
Well Randy Moss was let go by the Raiders for not having any heart. Look at him now!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 10-31-2007 11:26 AM

Re: Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
If Kiffin (who coached MW at USC) is letting him go, I can't imagine that MW has anything to offer.

MTK 10-31-2007 11:32 AM

Re: Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
He's garbage.

dgack 10-31-2007 11:43 AM

Re: Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
[quote=Mattyk72;371884]He's garbage.[/quote]

Anybody want to expound on this a little more? I don't understand the vitriol against this guy, other than the obvious "he was an overpaid first round bust".

Like I said, I didn't see any string of incidents with the law, or questions about his health. He's still extremely young, and hasn't ever played for a good pro team.

He may turn out to be a total bust who never catches on (a la Taylor Jacobs) but with the physical attributes the guy has, I don't see who wouldn't want to take a chance on the dude unless he is absolutely a headcase.

MTK 10-31-2007 11:47 AM

Re: Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
[quote=dgack;371887]Anybody want to expound on this a little more? I don't understand the vitriol against this guy, other than the obvious "[B]he was an overpaid first round bust[/B]".

Like I said, I didn't see any string of incidents with the law, or questions about his health. He's still extremely young, and hasn't ever played for a good pro team.

He may turn out to be a total bust who never catches on (a la Taylor Jacobs) but with the physical attributes the guy has, I don't see who wouldn't want to take a chance on the dude unless he is absolutely a headcase.[/quote]

That's pretty much what makes him garbage.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 10-31-2007 11:48 AM

Re: Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
[QUOTE=dgack;371887]Anybody want to expound on this a little more? I don't understand the vitriol against this guy, other than the obvious "he was an overpaid first round bust".

Like I said, I didn't see any string of incidents with the law, or questions about his health. He's still extremely young, and hasn't ever played for a good pro team.

He may turn out to be a total bust who never catches on (a la Taylor Jacobs) but with the physical attributes the guy has, I don't see who wouldn't want to take a chance on the dude unless he is absolutely a headcase.[/QUOTE]

He hasn't had any run-ins the law and he has been relatively injury-free. However, in Detroit, he had weight problems, didn't have a solid work ethic, and didn't play [I]or[/I] practice well. I don't know how he was received in Oakland, but they obviously gave up on the kid. That Kiffin gave up on him says a lot IMO.

I don't think anyone hates the kid, we just think he's overpaid and dumb, lazy, and failing to take advantage of the opportunities afforded to him.

dgack 10-31-2007 11:57 AM

Re: Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
Hey, look, Green Bay is letting Koren "K-Drop" Robinson back on the roster, and that guy's an avowed alcoholic. So Williams has a taste for the buffet? Sign him to a min contract and put performance incentives in there.

Why hate on a guy just because Detroit and Chokeland paid him too much? If we can get him for peanuts and he realizes he's got a chance to play for a quality organization, so much the better. I'd think that anybody we sign at WR from now on would realize that there are legitimate opportunities to become a starting NFL WR3...

MTK 10-31-2007 11:59 AM

Re: Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
[quote=dgack;371906]Hey, look, Green Bay is letting Koren "K-Drop" Robinson back on the roster, and that guy's an avowed alcoholic. So Williams has a taste for the buffet? Sign him to a min contract and put performance incentives in there.

Why hate on a guy just because Detroit and Chokeland paid him too much? If we can get him for peanuts and he realizes he's got a chance to play for a quality organization, so much the better. I'd think that anybody we sign at WR from now on would realize that there are legitimate opportunities to become a starting NFL WR3...[/quote]

There's a big difference you're failing to realize.

Robinson has produced on the field, Williams has not.

Guys who produce will keep getting chances while guys that don't produce will not.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 10-31-2007 12:03 PM

Re: Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
[QUOTE=dgack;371906]Hey, look, Green Bay is letting Koren "K-Drop" Robinson back on the roster, and that guy's an avowed alcoholic. So Williams has a taste for the buffet? Sign him to a min contract and put performance incentives in there.

Why hate on a guy just because Detroit and Chokeland paid him too much? If we can get him for peanuts and he realizes he's got a chance to play for a quality organization, so much the better. I'd think that anybody we sign at WR from now on would realize that there are legitimate opportunities to become a starting NFL WR3...[/QUOTE]

I corrected a typo in my previous post; we don't hate the kid, we just don't think he'll be a good NFL wideout.

jbcjr14 10-31-2007 12:11 PM

Re: Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
I think you take a shot on the kid if you can get him cheap. He is HUGE and could do some damage in our inept offense.

Stacks42 10-31-2007 12:15 PM

Re: Mike Williams Cut by Raiders
 
What can it hurt? Is he going to bring down the locker room morale on offense, somehow I dont think that is possible. Our #1 WR Moss has less than 300 yds through 7 games.


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