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Schneed10 11-13-2006 04:31 PM

Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
Here are some players who, in my judgment, are vulnerable to being handed their walking papers. Some are only slight possibilities to get cut (like Thrash because Gibbs loves him on special teams), others are locks (like John Hall). But these are the possibles.

Mark Brunell - $2.33 m
Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m
Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m
John Hall - $1.5 m
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m
James Thrash - $1.3 m
Todd Collins - $1.25 m
Christian Fauria - $1.0 m
Mike Rumph - $1.0 m
Joe Salave'a - $710K
Pierson Prioleau - $710K
Lemar Marshall - $600K
Demetric Evans - $600K
Khary Campbell - $500K
Rock Cartwright - $450K
Nick Novak - $435K

We'd also save a bit by cutting Jansen, Randy Thomas, or Rabach. But I'm assuming that ain't happening.

These are the guys we're stuck with 'till death do us part (or till salary cap hell do us in). We can't renegotiate to give us much relief in '07, and we can't cut them or we'll absorb this:

Antwaan Randle El: $7.5 m hit to cut
Andre Carter: $6.8 m hit to cut
Adam Archuleta: $6.5 m hit to cut
Brandon Lloyd: $6.5 m hit to cut
Carlos Rogers: $5.3 m hit to cut
David Patten: $2.2 m hit to cut

Not that we'd want to cut all those guys (except ahem, Archuleta).

70Chip 11-13-2006 04:35 PM

Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
Keepers:
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m
James Thrash - $1.3 m
Joe Salave'a - $710K
Pierson Prioleau - $710K
Lemar Marshall - $600K
Demetric Evans - $600K
Khary Campbell - $500K
Rock Cartwright - $450K
Nick Novak - $435K

Gmanc711 11-13-2006 04:36 PM

Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
I dont see these guys getting cut....
Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m (I think he'll restructure)
Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m ( " "_
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m
James Thrash - $1.3 m
Todd Collins - $1.25 m
Pierson Prioleau - $710K
Lemar Marshall - $600K
Demetric Evans - $600K
Rock Cartwright - $450K
Those last 5 I think are real good, cheap talent.

dall-assblows 11-13-2006 04:37 PM

Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
cut them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jk

Big C 11-13-2006 04:39 PM

Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
Mark Brunell - $2.33 m
[B]Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m[/B]
Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m
[B]John Hall - $1.5 m[/B]
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m
James Thrash - $1.3 m
Todd Collins - $1.25 m
[B]Christian Fauria - $1.0 m[/B]
[B]Mike Rumph - $1.0 m[/B]
Joe Salave'a - $710K
Pierson Prioleau - $710K
Lemar Marshall - $600K
Demetric Evans - $600K
Khary Campbell - $500K
Rock Cartwright - $450K
Nick Novak - $435K

Antwaan Randle El: $7.5 m hit to cut
Andre Carter: $6.8 m hit to cut
[I]Adam Archuleta: $6.5 m hit to cut[/I]
Brandon Lloyd: $6.5 m hit to cut
Carlos Rogers: $5.3 m hit to cut
[B]David Patten: $2.2 m hit to cut[/B]

id cut those in bold, and id consider cutting archie, depending on how much we would save

Beemnseven 11-13-2006 04:40 PM

Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
They would more than make up the $6.5 mil they'd lose by cutting Archuleta with dumping Brunell, Daniels and Wynn. ($6.73 million)

Can anyone honestly say there would be any noticeable difference with the latter two off the team?

Schneed10 11-13-2006 04:42 PM

Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
What I'm saying is we have Archuleta on the books next year for $2.5 million. If we cut him, we'll have to eat $9 million, meaning we'd take an incremental $6.5 million hit to axe his ass.

Like I said, till death do us part.

61cad 11-13-2006 04:43 PM

Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
Mark Brunell - $2.33 m (Bench)
Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m (Keeper)
Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m (Keeper)
John Hall - $1.5 m (Goodbye)
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m (Goodbye)
James Thrash - $1.3 m (Goodbye)
Todd Collins - $1.25 m (Goodbye)
Christian Fauria - $1.0 m (Goodbye)
Mike Rumph - $1.0 m (Keeper)
Joe Salave'a - $710K (Keeper)
Pierson Prioleau - $710K (Keeper)
Lemar Marshall - $600K (Keeper)
Demetric Evans - $600K (Keeper)
Khary Campbell - $500K (Goodbye)
Rock Cartwright - $450K (Goodbye)ARE return kicks
Nick Novak - $435K (Cracker..........please)

Big C 11-13-2006 04:45 PM

Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
id rather us keep wynn because of his leadership, hes a character guy, but his role has been minimized, and unelss he restructures he has to go

Beemnseven 11-13-2006 04:47 PM

Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
[QUOTE=Big C;244992]
[B]Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m[/B]
[/QUOTE]

Renaldo Wynn -- played in all 16 games in 2005, had 24 tackles and half a sack with one pass defended. Let's be honest, would he make the roster for any other team in the NFL that isn't as hung up on "locker room leaders" ??

What's his "leadership" done for us this year?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-13-2006 04:55 PM

Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
[QUOTE=Beemnseven;244995]They would more than make up the $6.5 mil they'd lose by cutting Archuleta with dumping Brunell, Daniels and Wynn. ($6.73 million)

Can anyone honestly say there would be any noticeable difference with the latter two off the team?[/QUOTE]

Maybe he'll be so miserable that he'll buy his way out of the contract to go to Chicago.

skinsfan69 11-14-2006 12:34 AM

Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
[quote=Schneed10;244973]Here are some players who, in my judgment, are vulnerable to being handed their walking papers. Some are only slight possibilities to get cut (like Thrash because Gibbs loves him on special teams), others are locks (like John Hall). But these are the possibles.

Mark Brunell - $2.33 m
Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m
Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m
John Hall - $1.5 m
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m
James Thrash - $1.3 m
Todd Collins - $1.25 m
Christian Fauria - $1.0 m
Mike Rumph - $1.0 m
Joe Salave'a - $710K
Pierson Prioleau - $710K
Lemar Marshall - $600K
Demetric Evans - $600K
Khary Campbell - $500K
Rock Cartwright - $450K
Nick Novak - $435K

We'd also save a bit by cutting Jansen, Randy Thomas, or Rabach. But I'm assuming that ain't happening.

These are the guys we're stuck with 'till death do us part (or till salary cap hell do us in). We can't renegotiate to give us much relief in '07, and we can't cut them or we'll absorb this:

Antwaan Randle El: $7.5 m hit to cut
Andre Carter: $6.8 m hit to cut
Adam Archuleta: $6.5 m hit to cut
Brandon Lloyd: $6.5 m hit to cut
Carlos Rogers: $5.3 m hit to cut
David Patten: $2.2 m hit to cut

Not that we'd want to cut all those guys (except ahem, Archuleta).[/quote]

You are forgetting one big name. Clinton Portis. He has a HUGE number next year and it is possible that he may be playing elsewhere in 07. Re-sign Betts and Duckett and go with that combination. You know Gibbs likes the big back anyway and I think that is one of the reasons Duckett was brought in here. Becasue of the Portis situation next year. As good as Portis is it might make sense to move in another direction to place the big money he makes in other areas of need.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-14-2006 12:38 AM

Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;245444]You are forgetting one big name. Clinton Portis. He has a HUGE number next year and it is possible that he may be playing elsewhere in 07. Re-sign Betts and Duckett and go with that combination. You know Gibbs likes the big back anyway and I think that is one of the reasons Duckett was brought in here. Becasue of the Portis situation next year. As good as Portis is it might make sense to move in another direction to place the big money he makes in other areas of need.[/QUOTE]

If you think Portis will or should be gone in 2007, you need to stop free-basing.

hooskins 11-14-2006 01:04 AM

Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
I dont see how Brunell is anything but a must cut. He is really washed up, and we have Todd Collins for cheap. Make Todd our number two, and I would be confident with him stepping in, bc atleast he knows Al's stuff really. Draft some scum in the latter rounds, or pickup a cheap free agent for third in the depth chart.

hooskins 11-14-2006 01:08 AM

Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings
 
[quote=61cad;245007]
Rock Cartwright - $450K (Goodbye)ARE return kicks
[/quote]


You couldnt be more wrong about Rock. He is a beast at kickoffs, and you DONT want ARE returning kicks, bc that is more tiring, and beating on a reciever. Especially to do both kick and punt returns. Plus he is super cheap(did I forget to mention "super-smart"?), and even if he wants more loot, we could afford to give him a bit more, if anything he deserves it.

This would be a stupid cut just to save 450K.

Also, Betts may not be here next season, even if we give him the money, bc I he is turning heads in the NFL for a potential starting job. Rock would be good to keep to fill that spot.


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